Bleach Chapter 584 Discussion

gbanshee said:
HavocParker said:


Now your sound like a hater, rather than a fan.



I hate to do that, but you provoked me, so there you go: "you".



And if for you one has to be either a fan or a hater, then I'd rather stay out of your extremely narrow point of view.



Also, continuing my line of thought:

Seriously, do ANY of you remember Kirge Opie or Loyd Lloyd and his hilariously named brother? I know they exist, but other than that, I can't say anything about them other than that they died. Their sole purpose was to die, and when character's sole purpose is to die, he could as well not exist in the first place and be replaced by a random nameless dead guy.



I just joking the whole time buddy. The fact that your just focus on the bad thing of Bleach making me feel inconvenience that all.

Ichigo about to get it down 8 v 1 and he's still holding his ground.



A real G protagonist.

So little development, only more showed up.

For once I'm actually happy that we don't see Ichigo defeating everyone because the villain kills them all as part of his keikaku. It means this manga will wrap up faster.

I hope we get to see a good fight between Ichigo and 8 SRs..

gbanshee said:
Wannabiteme said:


Big breast = no character development? Let me show you some examples:

- Innue Orihime and her brother/father

- Shiba clan/family (like Kuukaku, Ichigo's mother etc)



A character that's been around since the very beginning (Orihime) and all you can say about her after 500+ chapters is her background about her brother? That's shitty development right there.



HavocParker said:


Haha very funny buddy, your clearly  a hater, not fan



I just turned your post around, so if that makes me a hater, I wonder what that makes you.



Now your sound like a hater, rather than a fan.

ichii_1 said:
^ and those faults are? (except the length of the chapters of course :) and the no background thing Kubo already addressed that



Do I really need to point them out? Horrible pacing, AWFUL storytelling, unnecessary fan service, underdeveloped and one-dimensional characters, bullshit powerups, resorting to overused shounen cliches in almost every chapter... the list goes on.

So the Quincies fight amongst each other and that's it. Wow.



I wonder if they aren't all going to be turned into reishi for Juuha before that even happens.

1 vs. 8, i wonder if someone will show up and help or ichigo will use bankai and let it rip



and ye i wonder where will Ishida and friends will go...next chap will be interesting.

gbanshee said:
HavocParker said:
gbanshee said:
HavocParker said:


Ichigo has never been one to want to kill someone, infact I'm pretty sure outside of fillers the only person he has sort of directly killed was Kugo, and with a right reason to be honest, he wasn't a splendid person. And when "he" inadvertently killed Ulquiorra he didn't seem massively happy about it, a usually recurring theme in most Anime's where the protagonist is usually pure of heart and is never fond of killing someone. Otherwise whats the difference between them and villains?



Ichigo is not the kind of person to kill people. That's just not his character. It goes against his principles to kill anyone, including enemies. Although, Ginjo is an exception. Ichigo was really pissed that one time.



Doesn't make it any less retarded. That shounen cliche is just exploited too much, it doesn't make sense to fight someone and tell them to dodge your attacks. What is even the point. Just stay still and let them beat you up.



HavocParker said:


She DID dodge, but at the very last second, and so only lost her arm. I'm not sure if it's true, but it WOULD make sense, since both Ichigo's words and what ended up happening to Candice's body after avoiding most of the attack seem to imply that Candice would have been WRECKED had she not dodged.



There's nothing to indicate that she dodged, even more - it looks like she is right in the middle of the attack.



And the result?



A CLEANLY cut off arm. Just look at it:



http://i995.mangareader.net/bleach/584/bleach-5000249.jpg



She doesn't even look affected by that attack other than the arm, her clothes intact, no bruises/scars/burns, nothing (and it's clearly an explosion, there is smoke around it during the attack, and then behind her after the attack.



There's no arguing here, it's simply retarded.



The retarded one is your since your complain about the trench that have exits in shounen for a very long time.



Wow, so much for a retort.

The fact that such cliches exist in shounens doesn't mean that you have to use them in every single fucking chapter. No other shounen I know resorts to this shit with such intensity as Bleach does. That's one...

And two, it's just a stupid thing to say. If I criticize a horror movie for using the same horror cliches in every scene, does it make my criticism any less correct and just? Think about it. The demographic has nothing to do with it, you can make a good shounen without repeating same shit all the time. You just need to be a good story teller, not a fashion designer. Sorry Kubo, but stick to the clothes.



The only redeeming quality about Bleach at this time is its character designs. Oh, and the anime music, but that one is on hold for now, so...



Instead waste my time on Bleach weakness and argue with a hater like your, i rather focus on enjoy Bleach for the entertainment it's give to me.

Bleach getting good cause Ichigo gets more screen time

This chapter was much better than last week's simply because something actually happened this time. Everyone ganging up on Ichigo should hopefully mean that we won't have to suffer through individual fights with characters no one cares about. Juha Bach is on the move too! And Uryuu even made an appearance. I can't believe I'm actually typing this but...4/5