Bleach Chapter 584 Discussion

This is retarded.In every chapter nothing of importance happens until the  last two pages and even then it is just a recycle of the previous chapter.



The Quincys hardly resembling humans with powers doesnt help either.



And of course we cant have Ichigo killing anyone,that isnt a dump Hollow, do we?

Their numbers multiplied. Is Ichigo going to switch to bankai just like always or will he actually stay in shikai?

ichii_1 said:


I said except the chapter length :(



I said nothing about the chapter length, the story pacing is horrible because of its structure, not chapter length.



ichii_1 said:


If you don't like the story your problem :O



That's the problem, I DO like the story and the universe, I'm just amazed at how horribly it's been developed lately. Nothing can justify that awful storytelling that Kubo is serving us right now.



ichii_1 said:
What fan service? lol,  what's wrong with good looking women?

Go read some real ecchi <3



Gee, nothing wrong with good looking women, but if it's the only redeeming quality they have, then that's boring. It's not like I have anything against big breasted characters, but my god, if that's all they have to offer, I'll pass. Even the plump Kirio Hikifune that looked unique and interesting had to turn into enermously-boobed chick, because otherwise none of the teenage fans would fap to her, right? That would be such a horrible missed opportunity (not that it's the first time something like this happened, eh, Nelliel?)



I'm seriously past the age where I need to have boobs thrown in everywhere to enjoy something. When I want boobs, I go get the boobs.



ichii_1 said:
Underdeveloped, one dimensional? did you even read the manga? have you not seen how Ichigo and the gang has grown since the beginning? you probably think the full bring arc is pointless too (it isn't by the way) :O and even the sternritters that already died have development (Mask, As Nodt, Gremmy)



No, I don't think Fullbringer arc was pointless, I actually think it was one of the more interesting arcs in the story. That doesn't change the fact that the whole Bleach cast (aside from a few exceptions) is extremely boring, predictable, one-dimensional and completely flavorless. I won't even touch the new characters, as they obviously didn't have enough time to "shine". Not surprised though, because when can you make time for new characters, when you have an assload of old ones that you didn't even flesh out properly.



Oh, right, revealing bankais, shikais and other powers doesn't really count as developing a character.



ichii_1 said:


The powerups were explained, if you can't except them, it's your problem again.



No, wrong again. I DO expect them. That's the problem. It's gotten so absurdly repetitive that I DO expect EVERY power up. You know your story is shit when every problem can be solved by a power up, explained or not. Remember, Final Getsuga Tenshou was explained too. Still doesn't make it less of an asspull, as it was conveniently brought to light few chapters before it was needed. So much for an explanation.



ichii_1 said:


Write a story without any of these so called "cliches" whatsoever, go ahead, you'll find it is quite impossible.



Cliches are meant to be used, but used CORRECTLY and SKILLFULLY. Kubo doesn't have any of that, he just throws them around like a seizuring octopus. I seriously recommend you to broaden your horizons and read some other manga and comics, perhaps even read a book?



And sure, I get it, it's a shounen, it's not supposed to be complicated and all that, but come on, even a shounen has the limits to acceptable retardation, Bleach surpassed those long ago.

Well Yhwach once again proves to us that he is a force of nature which almost seems unstoppable.



He seems to be one step ahead of everything and is only focused on his goal and nothing else. And he seems to be the complete opposite of Aizen.... While Aizen used multiple steps to make Ichigo achieve great power throughout his life to meet an equal, Yhwach seems to be completely avoiding Ichigo at every step (Proabably because he is so dangerous) and won't confront him, and luring Ichigo away from everything Yhwach does.

My god he is awesome.



But one thing that is clear is that the SR don't get along well and seem to only be loyal to Yhwach and no other including their fellow SR. It is odd but does make sense in a weird way.... Yhwach also seems to instigate such behaviour since before I remember he announced Uryuu's candidacy to become the next emperor to create discord within his own troops and make everyone look at each other.

I highly doubt Renji and Shinji got off screened.



This all makes me think about NaNaNa's sudden appearance when he and the others (Bazz-B and As Nodt) attacked Yama all those chapters back. He was fighting Rose at the time, like Bazz-B was with Shinji. But what happened during both these fights? A bigger target appeared.



With NaNaNa, it was Yamamoto and with Bazz-B it was Ichigo. The Head Captain of the Gotei 13 and the #1 of the SWP List. Both of which were bigger targets than the Captains the two Stern Ritters were facing at the time.



With NaNaNa appearing here again, before he even attacked Renji, makes me think that he once again pulled priorites here. And the same goes with Bazz-B What was more important, finishing off Shinji or a SWP?

Wannabiteme said:


And I think only few characters has "enermously-boobs" (Orihime? Hikifune? Matsumoto?)



Yoruichi (at least she has some decency to wear some clothes, so it's not that in your face xD)

Unagiya

Kuukaku Shiba

Tier Harribel

Nelliel

Meninas McAllon



and those who don't have giant knockers are big breasted too. The amount of flat chests is astoundingly unrealistic and unprobable (and coincidently those without giant knockers usually have some character development)





Wannabiteme said:


Watch 2nd season of Seikon no qwaser. In one episode:


girls boobs was like half of her body, and they were bouncing on them

Or watch Sora no otoshimono.



I don't think that defending one shitty example of fanservice with shittier example of fanservice really works.

The chapter seemed to be short as always, we need more content ahah.



Ichigo seem to be the grand prize to all those Quincy, but they'll turn out all to be dead bodies.

Everything gets shorter and shorter. It's a bit stupid that Bazz B would think that one finger fire would kill those girls.