Bleach Chapter 535 Discussion

amenboy972 said:
chaos999 said:
Please explain to me something guys....



If Juha Bach is a quincy(a human) and he fought Yamamoto and the original Gotei 13   1000 years back, how in hell is he still ALIVE???????????????????

Humans don't live for a 100 years, not even in Bleach...! :/

I wrote the answer in my previous post.



Yet he is the leader of the quincys????

And has quincy powers??

Forgetfulness said:
Arashi89 said:
"Your days as a shinigami will be over", eh? Say, didn't Isshin defeat a powered-up Grand Fisher, and was an Arrancar at the time, with a single slash? And didn't he fight against a physical god and managed to hinder him, where most professional shinigami had a foot in the grave? Oh wait. I forgot it was the same thing for Ichigo: they told him he'll never get back his powers and just in a few months,with the help of a Deus ex Machina, he became more powerful than ever. Even with overpowered characters, Kubo still doesn't know how to make them win, so he must resort to cheat codes.



Lolnope.



"Chances are high that your days as a shinigami are effectively over"

showing that it's not definite. And anyways, later that page they say



"It won't be until the hollow and the girl are free from the reishi string that you will be able to exit the shell..."

which basically translates to: Once everything's sorted out, you won't have to be a human anymore



Yeah, I know Kubo's done it before with Ichigo and Ishida but this time isn't quite the same.



This.

Also for Ichigo's case... they said that his power will never return to him, not that there was absolutely no way, even with scientific research, to restore his power.

They were right, no matter how much time Ichigo would wait, his power would never return to him but it was never said nor implied that even if there's no way to restore his power now there will never be a way to.

Basically even if you were misleaded you into thinking that "Ichigo will never have any power again", it wasn't the case.



Zangetsu said goodbye to Ichigo and even though Ichigo got his zanpakutou back we haven't had the chance to see if Zangetsu is still alive or if it is now a 'soulless zanpakutou'.

Wannabiteme said:
@amen

I still believe that the main reason he lost his power were because of using Final Getsuga. I guess you remember it better than me.



Dark past - maybe as 'unknown' past?



But guys(girls?) - take it easy, we have facts for both site, so we must just wait, not shouting at each other.



ps. I don't think he think arrancars/hollows are worth too much.



Kisuke explained clearly that Isshin can't use his powers of shinigami by using this special gigaï to stop the Masaki's hollowification. Isshin had to wait Masaki's death to recover his powers, and even Isshin could lose his powers for ever. I'm sure Isshin recovered his powers thanks his contact with Ichigo after he met Rukia.

http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/535/14



I don't think there is something interesting on Ichigo's childhood. Maybe the manga will give more suprises.

"Your days as a shinigami will be over", eh? Say, didn't Isshin defeat a powered-up Grand Fisher, and was an Arrancar at the time, with a single slash? And didn't he fight against a physical god and managed to hinder him, where most professional shinigami had a foot in the grave? Oh wait. I forgot it was the same thing for Ichigo: they told him he'll never get back his powers and just in a few months,with the help of a Deus ex Machina, he became more powerful than ever. Even with overpowered characters, Kubo still doesn't know how to make them win, so he must resort to cheat codes.

Forgetfulness said:
Can someone clearly explain again how Isshin is supposed to help Masaki?



I know he just has to live with her and stuff, but what's all this stuff about human/shinigami and quincy/hollow?basically there are 4 types of energies(hollow,human,quincy,shinigami). When a soul hollowfies you need balance it out by fusing all 4 energies together. When the visards hollowfied kisuke balanced them out using a vaccine made from human and quincy energy. in order to balance out misaki they need to infuse her with human and shinigami energy. In misaki's case she wont be able to controll her inner hollow so instead of a vaccine they are going to put isshin in a special gigai made from humans souls and kisuke is going to stich their souls together in order to keep her soul balanced.

amenboy972 said:


they never tried to do it before



Hmm.. I missed that part, I guess.

But I guess I will stick to this FGT theory as it's still possible(less likely but still; and it's more fun that way, at the moment :D I will wait for explanation from manga I guess)



Oh, ps. I love translation on the last page:

http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/Bleach/Bleach-535/page-20

fits Ishin so much vs 'meh'/normal version:

http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/535/19

sounds so... lame..

j0x said:
Raikomyth said:
Isshin is the dad, but that doesn't mean Juha Bach isn't related in some way.





ye i agree with that maybe Juha Bach is just the ancestral grand father of Ichigo just like the story of Yusuke and Raizen on Yu Yu Hakusho anime/manga, so thats why he refer to Ichigo as son too and that familiar resemblance with Zangetsui didnt understend the thing about the string urhara said to ishin can you explain me more clearly?

I lol @ the faces when Isshin agreed quickly.