Bleach Chapter 535 Discussion

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  • #42
Good chapter, explained a lot, tho I still don't know how Juha blends in all of this.



Can't wait to see that explained as well, so we can get back to fighting.
 
  • #44
Interesting chapter. Did Ichigo go through something like this with his hollowfication too? I can't really remember.
 
  • #45
just finished reading MangaStream version



so Ichigo is 4 race in one since Masaki is a Quincy/Hollow while Isshin is a Shinigami/Human



Inarius said:


I wonder if next ch will be the end of the flashback :-/



i hope not i want to see how Masaki died so that Isshin will get his Shinigami powers back to avenge her
 
  • #46
Sometimes I wonder if Urahara is the main character
 
  • #47
amenboy972 said:
NEKO-est said:
LOL, I thought that they would have to transfer the Hollow into another body or something, and that would be how Ichigo was born ... Can't wait for the next chapter~!

And how could Ichigo get his powers of fullbringer and Vizard ?



Aren't those just mutations? Fullbringers and Visards are souls exposed to hollow reiatsu. Fullbringers are humans that had parents exposed to hollow reiatsu - not sure if parents had to be pregnant at the time of exposure. Visards are shinigami that also got some hollow reiatsu injected into their spiritual body. Where in case of Visards a special treatment is needed or else their soul will explode and vanish as Urahara stated (soul suicide), fullbringers are not affected by that (or maybe they are if they get way to power hungry?).



For some reason Ginjo is a mystery. Must be that being fullbringer somehow gave him the immunity to soul suicide. Otherwise he would be Human - hollow - shinigami mix. Plot hole?

What is so different about Quincy and Fullbringers? One can bend material world to his will and the other can draw power from spiritual world.

Are there two types of Quincy? Humans like Masaki and Ishida family being one and then Juha Bach and his sidekicks being the other?



Would Whitey become perfect Shinigami x Hollow had he removed his mask like arrancars do?
 
  • #48
amenboy972 said:
kizu-kun said:
amenboy972 said:


You talked about fusing the 4 energies together. you can't stop the hollowification like that.



To stop the hollowification you have to stop the mixing between the Masaki's soul and the hollow. And recreate a boundary between them. So Masaki's soul and the hollow are in the same body but they aren't mixed.



You can notice Ichigo's powers of shinigami are linked to his power of hollow, but he needed Kirge Opie's reatsu to awake his powers of quincy.

http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/514/8 But thats the same thing as mixing the 4 energies together. The reason her soul will not fuse with the hollow's soul is because she will be permanently linked to a source of human/soulreaper energy. Giving her a small dose of Human/reaper energy stops soul suicide but giving her a permanent dose stops hollowfication.

It can't be the same thing if you compare Masaki and the Vizards. The vizards are hollowifized but not Masaki.

Read that and after you are going to understand the meaning of the hollowification :

http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/535/9i understand what hollowfication is. I'm just saying what you need in order to stop hollowfication and what you need to stop soul suicide is basically the same. Not that soul suicide and hollowfication are the same. They are both stopped by having an energy opposite to yours introduced into your body. The only difference is how much of that energy it takes to stop each one. If the visards had been linked to a constant source of quincy/human energy early on than then their souls would not have fused with the hollow's souls. Instead they were only given enough quincy/human energy to stop soul suicide.
 
  • #49
LOL, I thought that they would have to transfer the Hollow into another body or something, and that would be how Ichigo was born ... Can't wait for the next chapter~!
 
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