Bleach Chapter 535 Discussion

Raikomyth said:
Isshin is the dad, but that doesn't mean Juha Bach isn't related in some way.





ye i agree with that maybe Juha Bach is just the ancestral grand father of Ichigo just like the story of Yusuke and Raizen on Yu Yu Hakusho anime/manga, so thats why he refer to Ichigo as son too and that familiar resemblance with Zangetsu

kizu-kun said:
amenboy972 said:
kizu-kun said:
basically there are 4 types of energies(hollow,human,quincy,shinigami). When a soul hollowfies you need balance it out by fusing all 4 energies together. When the visards hollowfied kisuke balanced them out using a vaccine made from human and quincy energy. in order to balance out misaki they need to infuse her with human and shinigami energy. In misaki's case she wont be able to controll her inner hollow so instead of a vaccine they are going to put isshin in a special gigai made from humans souls and kisuke is going to stich their souls together in order to keep her soul balanced.



I don't agree with you, you mixed how to stop the soul suicide and how to stop the hollowification.

the energies from the reiatsu of quincy, the reiatsu of human soul, the reiatsu of shinigami and the reiatsu of hollow have to be mixed to stop the soul suicide but it doesn't recreate the balance inside the souls. Kisuke said he could stop the soul suicide himself, but he needs Isshin to recreate the balance inside Masaki.

The Vizards stopped their soul suicide but they didn't stop their hollowification, they learnt to control it and use it as I said earlier



To stop the hollowification the spiritual link between the Masaki's soul and the hollow inside her created from Isshin's reiatsu in the special gigaï is necessary. To recreate the balance Masaki's soul is fed by the special gigaï and the hollow is fed by the powers of shinigami. It's basically the same thing isn't it? In both cases she needs a dose of human/shinigami energy. Its just that in order to stop her from hollowfying she needs a permanent dosage.

You talked about fusing the 4 energies together. you can't stop the hollowification like that.



To stop the hollowification you have to stop the mixing between the Masaki's soul and the hollow. And recreate a boundary between them. So Masaki's soul and the hollow are in the same body but they aren't mixed.



You can notice Ichigo's powers of shinigami are linked to his power of hollow, but he needed Kirge Opie's reatsu to awake his powers of quincy.

http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/514/8

I do agree the story was great, but doesn't anyone here think that it was too much predictable???

The fact that the first time Isshin was showed as a shinigami and Urahara mentioned about his powers coming back and that Masaki got infected by hollowfication disease(a new contagious disease... Oh great..!) in the last chapter made this chapter's story quite a bit obvious....!



Still, it was quite hilarious to see those faces when Isshin agreed to the plan just like that....! :D

Gotta admit, this flashback arc is better than any Naruto has offered.

chaos999 said:
Please explain to me something guys....



If Juha Bach is a quincy(a human) and he fought Yamamoto and the original Gotei 13 1000 years back, how in hell is he still ALIVE???????????????????

Humans don't live for a 100 years, not even in Bleach...! :/



thats another mystery, i bet Juha Bach will have his own flashback or backstory in later chapters and we will know how he is REALLY related to Ichigo



amenboy972 said:
j0x said:
after reading again this chapter i got 3 types of Hollowfication

1. Vaizard = hollowfication of Shinigamis

2. Fullbringers = hollowfication of Humans

3. Masaki/??? = hollowfication of Quincies

I really don't think the fullbringers are hollowifized humans except Ichigo. Tatsuki was injured by normal hollows : Inoue's brother and a octopus hollow (chapters 4 and 42) and she never reacted like Masaki (a hole in her chest or soul suicide).

Maybe Ginjo could use the hollowification because he stole the Ichigo's reiatsu. Normally Ginjo has powers of quincy too.



Wikia said Fullbringers have mothers that was attacked and injured by Hollows so in a way their mothers was infected by hollows, thats why i came to that conclusion that Fullbringers are hollowfication of humans (or maybe hollowfication of human offspring is the better definition)

tsubasalover said:
I lol @ the faces when Isshin agreed quickly.

I know right xD

I mean chapters about FGT, that he(ishin) was talking with ichigo. http://www.mangapanda.com/94-54486-16/bleach/chapter-409.html

He has done FGT or at least have been trying.

WAHHHHHHH THE ENDING WAS SO GOOD :) :) I can't wait to see their little romance ^.^ SOO CUTE :) :)