Bleach Chapter 535 Discussion

Very interesting. Now it is clear why Isshin can live as a normal human without his shinigami powers. A very special gigai from Urahara.

But now it has to be revealed why it took time after Masaki's death for Isshin's power to come back. Because she died when Ichigo was 6 or so an Isshin got his powers back at the beginning of the Arrancar Arc. That are nearly ten years. Can't wait to know.

And poor Ryuken is person without function in this chapter ^^

Barion-Zara said:


So can we conclude from this chapter that Masaki was a Vizard quincy????

She only has the reiatsu of the hollow bounty inside her. The Isshin's powers stooped the hollowification inside Masaki.



The vizards learnt to control and to use the hollowification.

Please explain to me something guys....



If Juha Bach is a quincy(a human) and he fought Yamamoto and the original Gotei 13 1000 years back, how in hell is he still ALIVE???????????????????

Humans don't live for a 100 years, not even in Bleach...! :/

Another great chapter. I seriously love how Isshin is so laid-back. Last page is just pure gold. Masaki x Isshin, too awesome <3 Now that explains why Urahara and Isshin are so close. To think Masaki was such an important character instead of just being Ichigo's mother.

kizu-kun said:
amenboy972 said:
kizu-kun said:
amenboy972 said:


You talked about fusing the 4 energies together. you can't stop the hollowification like that.



To stop the hollowification you have to stop the mixing between the Masaki's soul and the hollow. And recreate a boundary between them. So Masaki's soul and the hollow are in the same body but they aren't mixed.



You can notice Ichigo's powers of shinigami are linked to his power of hollow, but he needed Kirge Opie's reatsu to awake his powers of quincy.

http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/514/8 But thats the same thing as mixing the 4 energies together. The reason her soul will not fuse with the hollow's soul is because she will be permanently linked to a source of human/soulreaper energy. Giving her a small dose of Human/reaper energy stops soul suicide but giving her a permanent dose stops hollowfication.

It can't be the same thing if you compare Masaki and the Vizards. The vizards are hollowifized but not Masaki.

Read that and after you are going to understand the meaning of the hollowification :

http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/535/9i understand what hollowfication is. I'm just saying what you need in order to stop hollowfication and what you need to stop soul suicide is basically the same. Not that soul suicide and hollowfication are the same. They are both stopped by having an energy opposite to yours introduced into your body. The only difference is how much of that energy it takes to stop each one. If the visards had been linked to a constant source of quincy/human energy early on than then their souls would not have fused with the hollow's souls. Instead they were only given enough quincy/human energy to stop soul suicide.



A you sure that you got it ?

The soul suicide is a level after (higher than) the hollowification then Wannabiteme was right when he said :

"So stopping the hollowification is the way of preventing soul suicide."



The mixing of the 4 reiatsus which you are talking about is useful when the hollowification (the mixing between the hollow and the main soul) is completed, but Masaki didn't reach this level yet.



Then to stop the hollowification you have to feed the Masaki's soul and the hollow with one reiatsu (the human reiatsu for Masaki and Isshin's reiatsu for the hollow) and put a new boundary between the hollow and Masaki's soul. so Isshin in the special gigaï represents the boundary between the hollow and Masaki's soul. And if there is a boundary between them, there isn't mixing and then there isn't hollowification.

wow you guys are reading to much into this.



Fact: kubo contradicts himself all the time.



but no big deal bleach is awesome even with its contradictions



this was a really good chapter tho, i cant wait for the next one

astrozombie84 said:
amenboy972 said:
kirby_422 said:
amenboy972 said:
Juha Bach said in the chapter 514, that he is Ichigo's father and it's enough for me.

If that's irrefutable evidence, then you must also agree that Isshin is the only one who could be the father, since in 448 both Isshin and Urahara both labeled Isshin as Ichigos father. The whole 'Parent robbing their son of their future' stuff.

you have no proof ! Ichigo can be Isshin's foster son.





wow dude your hopeless



there is tons of evidence that says isshin is the father. but you would rather believe the very small amount of evidence that says juha could be his father or an ancestor.



like i said when juha said that ichigo is his son born in darkness he doesn't mean it literally.



all he is saying is that ichigo is quincy and that he has a dark past. what about his past is so dark well other then the controversy about Isshin (soul reaper) and Masaki (quincy) starting a life together and Masaki being infected by a hollow we dont really know.

Hey man, I love your jokes !



The evidences that your are talking about is only in your mind.

It isn't because Juha Bach is new character he can't be Ichigo's father.



You even didn't notice the manga gave us some surprises for example : a lot people (except me) thought Isshin lost his powers by using the Final Getsuga Tenshou until they saw the last chapter.



We all saw Ichigo's evolution since he met Rukia for the first time and he hasn't a dark past. He was born in the darkness, then maybe none except Juha Bach and Aizen know who is Ichigo's father.



Juha Bach never tried to kill Ichigo in the Soul Society but he wanted to take Ichigo back, even before that Ichigo become a shinigami (chapter 514).      

Juha bach captured a lot of Arrancars so he is interested by the hollowification.

Maybe He chose Masaki for this reason.

Dang more revelations about hollowfication. Now I want to see what happens next before Masaki dies.