Bleach Chapter 535 Discussion

My grand theory about final battle where Masaki and Isshin have to use their most powerful techniques to fix things went to drain. Ryuuken was just there as a decoration without anything to do (expected him to shoot Masaki or something). Either way the outcome is as I predicted more or less. Isshin went and sacrificed himself in order to act as seal over Masaki Hollowfication.



Because Isshin became Shinigami + Human and Masaki is Quincy + Hollow we get Ichigo - Shinigami + Human + Quincy + Hollow in a balanced form. How did that work before this arc?



Ichigo was most of the time shinigami + human and was in constant conflict with his hollow side right? Did that little Quincy part affect him in any past battles? Was it his hollow mask that acted as blut to defend him from mortal wound or being cut in half by Aizen?



Remember the time when Ichigo and Isshida were hunting hollows? Isshida said something about colour ribbons and Ichigo grasped the idea of seeing them instantly (Rukia was shocked). Could his Quincy power be the reason why he got that idea so fast? Was the whole Quincy blood reason why Ichigo could awaken his Shinigami powers (ribbons in his inner world directed him to Zangetsu hilt)?



Urahara talk made me all dizzy and confused >_<



Y u so little fanservice? Shame Kubo put so little of nude Masaki T_T Confirmed that Isshin is total lolicon, pedo and big breasts fan. Next chapter if flashback doesn't end She might even blush in her inner world before they both wake up.



Few more weeks and we will see some silly looking Ichigo faces :D

Wannabiteme said:
I mean chapters about FGT, that he(ishin) was talking with ichigo. http://www.mangapanda.com/94-54486-16/bleach/chapter-409.html

He has done FGT or at least have been trying.

I knew that you believe it because Isshin suggested Ichigo to train it in the dangaï to defeat Aizen. I don't think Isshin used it because he never could recovered his powers alone. It's why kisuke created the special zanpakuto full of reaitsu to get back Ichigo's powers (and Isshin helped him).

Ryuken knew how to get back Ishida's power, Jushiro knew how to destroy the giant zanpakuto, Kisuke knew how to get back Ichigo's power (the first time in the shattered shaft) and how to help to invoke his zanpakuto but they never tried to do it before. It's just a knowledge they got from someone else or themselves.

Alright, I'll do it!!! ~ Isshin

Without even thinking he said those words. Characters like these are the best people.

Wannabiteme said:
But does hollofication does cause 'soul death', right [causing Imbalance of soul/hollow in body]?

So stoping hollofication is the way of preventing soul suicide.

It's just Ishin is strong so he can counter attack hollow - that's why hee, not quincy-guy, is chosen by Urahara.





@chapter

Beautiful! Suicide of soul. And schizophrenia [forgot who said that in this board]. It's just my cup of tea.Soul suicide is different from your inner hollow taking over. Soul Suicide is when a soul going through hollowfication for the first time breaks down because it isn't stable. Hollowfication is just a transformation into a hollow form. Your inner hollow doesn't kill you it just becomes the dominant soul with in your body.

amenboy972 said:


j0x said:


Wikia said Fullbringers have mothers that was attacked and injured by Hollows so in a way their mothers was infected by hollows, thats why i came to that conclusion that Fullbringers are hollowfication of humans (or maybe hollowfication of human offspring is the better definition)

1-Wikia isn't a reference.

2- you mixed two things :

- the fullbringers are humans whom the mother was attacked by a hollow before their birth and the reishi (spiritual particle) of the hollow stayed in the soul of the mother (chapter 433).

-A hollowification is a mixing between a hollow and another soul or another spiritual being : quincy, human, shinigami (chapter 535). You can notice all the characters of the manga who can use the hollowification (Vizard and Arrancar) got this power from Aizen Sosuke, except Kuugo Ginjo who stole ichigo's reiatsu to use it.



1. Wikia is as good as Wikipedia since i know some of its members are from AnimeSuki forums that got their sources directly from 2chan the largest forum of japan and also they can read and understand japanese



2. that is the same thing you are describing, that brings back that Fullbringers are just hollowfication of humans is just the process of hollowfizing humans is different than how you hollowfized shinigamis (or Vaizards), fullbringers have mothers that are infected by hollows and they pass down the hollow genes/DNA to their child and then that child will become a fullbringer that is human mix with hollow blood or hollowfied human



and also Arrancars are not hollowfication they are more like Shinigamification of Hollows from the way i understand that Arrancar term

But does hollofication does cause 'soul death', right [causing Imbalance of soul/hollow in body]?

So stoping hollofication is the way of preventing soul suicide.

It's just Ishin is strong so he can counter attack hollow - that's why hee, not quincy-guy, is chosen by Urahara.





@chapter

Beautiful! Suicide of soul. And schizophrenia [forgot who said that in this board]. It's just my cup of tea.

Wannabiteme said:
amenboy972 said:


they never tried to do it before



Hmm.. I missed that part, I guess.

But I guess I will stick to this FGT theory as it's still possible(less likely but still; and it's more fun that way, at the moment :D I will wait for explanation from manga I guess)

To use this attack Isshin needed to have a very powerful enemy. Isshin suggest it Ichigo because Aizen reached the end of his transformation (hollowification).



j0x said:
and also Juha Bach relation to Ichigo will never be disprove unless we see Juha Bach's backstory or flashback.

Thank you !

Itoukaiji said:
amenboy972 said:
-MgZ_ said:
Maybe we can just drop the Juha Bach - Ichigo relationship? This chapter confirmed that Isshin is Ichigo's dad.

Why ? this chapter only explains how Isshin lost his powers and why Isshin could not  go back to the Soul Society.

When Grand fisher Killed Masaki, Isshin wasn't near to her. Maybe the link between Masaki and Isshin could extend in all the Karakura Town.



Just look at the last page man that's all the confirmation you need that entrance, that look, it's like manga short hand for these two are gonna fall deeply in love. No fucking way anyone but Isshin is Ichigo's father or that Masaki would be with anyone else after that entrance. You're just grasping at straws to avoid the very obvious.

It proves nothing, and like I said earlier : maybe Masaki was unfaithful with Isshin and Ichigo was born from that. Or Maybe Juha Bach learnt what happened to Masaki (the wound of the hollow, the spiritual link with Isshin) and decided to create a super quincy (his son). I think it's for this reason that Juha Bach wants to have Aizen in his team. I'm sure that he wanted Aizen hollowifizes some quincies by using the hogyoku to make them stronger. You are going to be awfully disappointed.