Bleach Chapter 510 Discussion

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  • #58
ricky_san said:
It remains true. No one has been stronger than CC. The only way to defeat him is to "outsmart" him. So yes just like Aizen, Bach didn't defeat him str to str. He stole his his Bankai and slash him. CC is also a tanker. I highly doubt he's down with Bach's slash. Let's c next week!



Ichigo after he used the FGT was stronger than Yamamoto, Aizen's transformed form were too.
 
  • #59
Well there goes Yamamoto and his Bankai. Also Aizen was mentioned!
 
  • #60
^You're kidding, definetely......If that is true, then don't spoil anything from here on out. You hear me? NOTHING
 
  • #61
j0x said:
after reading this chapter again it looks like the real Juha Bach which named Loyd can copy other people's powers, i guess this is the basis of their gadget to capture a bankai, and its a MedakaBox rip-off too if you know what i mean



I really thought there won't be any more of such op nonsense
 
  • #62
@Kanic,@ lolwutfool - ok, my bad.



@Candor, but we probably won't see explanation about this fight because that's Kubo style.

For example - Kensei vs WonderWeiss - for Kubo that fight never happened, Kubo didn't even bother to show defeated Kensei(like in the very current case with Rose). And when we're at it - we were shown Kensei's bankai - but aside from its uninspired look we don't know anything about it(how it works and why it was so useless against WonderWeiss).

Or more important stuff - we only see the beginnings of Ichigo's training and then the results. Or how about this big ass-pulled hollowfication in the Ichi vs Ulquiorra fight.



And to discuss your points:

Byakuya - he was defeated with something reasonable, fear from losing Rukia and he was hit 3 times with his Bankai, I see no reason for not remembering that part, we still don't know if he's dead or not.

Byakuya was defeated by some random dude(no backstory, nothing) who then got killed by Yama. So i guess epic re-match is no longer possible.

As for the "dead" part on Byakuya's side - come on, this is Bleach* ;].

Yamamoto - That's where I said you're rushing things here, he was trying to end the battle quickly and he raged over Yojiro's death and was underestimating the enemy and he was outsmarted by Bach, but we know no further info, wait until things get explained fully.

But it isn't usual Kubo's "ambiguous" ending in which he really sucks(for ex. Aizen and his countless "deaths" at the ends of the chapters in fk). It really looks like the end of the fight. Granted, its only my(and apparently Hanyuu's too) impression, but I think we are not the only ones who see it that way, and for valid reasons.

We talked about these chapters, I thought that this is only the beginning of their clash, you also hoped that Yama"'ll put a good fight".

Kenpachi - We still don't know what happened and who defeated Kenpachi, is it FBach? is it the blondie and FBach did the finishing blow? Again you're rushing things.

And we probably(but in this case there is a chance for us to be given explanation since Kenpachi isn't the one to accept his defeat without some words, so we might get some insight of this battle later - but that would mean some character developement, not the strong side of this series) won't know which is even more depressing x/.

Oh, I remember the exact same situation like Bach vs. Ken = Ichi vs. Ulq - when Orihime got to the upper level, Ulq strangled already defeated Ichigo with his tail and held him in the air.

Like Kenpachi & Byakuya vs. Yammi, the strongest Espada(my ass) why bother to show it, right, Kubo?



*Though I would really like to be proven wrong in this case. I don't have anything against Byakuya, but his death would have some major impact. For now we're left with the death of the character who was a joke for the entire series(Sasakibe) and couple of no-names.
 
  • #63
Oh gosh, why do I even bother with Bleach? I hate Kubo so much.



This chapter had me face palming so much that it began to hurt.
 
  • #64
ramzes5a said:
SPOILERS



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!!! The last war potential will be Toshiro Hitsugaya, because they don't know his true power yet. Yamato will be dead for sure so the one who will defeat Juha Bach and become a new Society president will be Toshiro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



sorry for spoilers!! but there was a warning



Oh hell no. Somehow I can see it coming( I honestly think toshiro is Kubo's favorite captain) but HELL NO.
 
  • #65
Han-yuu said:
Didn't Kenpachi defeated three with just shikai. Yamamoto could've done lot better and then it's okay for him to lose. I know he can't defeat enemy boss but at-least put up some fight some fight with real one. So all hype of his power ended up like this, unless Kubo proved me wrong and he stand up in next chapter. Let's see how Aizen will come back. It's time for Ichigo to get some action and i wonder when we will see Urahara and result of that cliffhanger.



Kenpachi does not have shikai. The shikai is the released form of a zanpakuto and Kenpachi's zanpakuto refuses to work with him since he's only treated it as an instrument to kill.



Also Yamamoto just got caught off guard. I don't really think he expected it to be a fake because that guy completely copied the leader(memories and all.) and when he had his bankai stolen and the big ol' boss was going to make him fight his own comrades I think that's when it became personal. That would have meant fighting his Lt. along with the others that got killed and I guess he just got to emotional about it and lunged at him.



Yamamoto is the strongest but at the same time he isn't the most cool-headed or smartest character either. Who knows though, maybe he does something in the next chapter. I have no idea what the hell kind of weapon the leader used but I don't know if it would kill him in one hit.
 
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