Bleach Chapter 509 Discussion
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- #11
lol just had a random thought about who could be holding up that sword to urahara. Kubo has had a few anti climatic surprise intros in the past. Like when momo showed up to help matsumoto or when Don kanoji appeared before Aizen and Gin.
Well I thought the mysterious person that has yet to be revealed could just be hiyori XD. She did get ambushed by someone coming out of a black portal last time we saw her. It could of been that the extra Vizards on earth are one of the war potentials and they were brought to HM. After escaping she kills that quincy guy and attacks urahara going along with their usual running gag of her not liking him.
Its a far-fetched theory but it works and also brings the remaining vizards back into the story.Urahara, Gin (he's dead), Aizen (in prison), Kurotsuchi and the Arrancar are the only ones we know who can open a Garaganta. Hiyori smelled a Shinigami's scent and a Garaganta was opened at that point, the only Shinigami who are in the living world are Isshin and Yuroichi, Urahara can't be afraid of them or they won't attack Urahara so the one who attacked Kirge is either an Arrancar (Grimmjow) or someone we don't know.
- #13
Yamamoto acknowldged him as Juha Bach, but he says he isn't. Sooo, an illusion(again?) or some kind of clone? SO, I think we have a hint about the war potentials. People whose Bankai is of unknown potential.
So: Ichigo, Kenpachi, Yamamoto, 4th one is???
Maybe it is Unohana since it seems that she hasn't fought in a long time. Of course it could also be Isshin or Urahara as well. Who knows?? Must wait and read to find out.
- #14
My theory is that the Bach who was killed is only a small part of the original Juha Bach, so much that he bears the same reiatsu (as Yamamoto went straight towards him). I believe that the original Bach separated a part of himself like Stark did with Lelilith. If this is true, that would mean the original Juha Bach has only shown a portion of his strength and may be on par if not stronger than Yamamoto. Moreover, it's impossible for Quincys to live for a 1000 years since they're of human medium. This would mean Bach is also part Shinigami. The fact that he hasn't shown his bankai can only lead me to believe immense reiatsu is neccesary and as such only the original can use it.
- #16
Zhou said:
Aizen is a frikkin' monster, more than possible. As for Yoruichi, does she even have a zanpakutou, we have never seen it or did I miss it? If she has one, I would say it's possible.
On top of that, we still have Kyouraku, Ukitake, Unohana, Isshin, even Urahara, we have no idea how strong they are in the end, I wouldn't count them out.
I'll ask again, does the fact that we never saw those bankais mean that Juha doesn't have any data on them or SOME sort of standars through which he concluded which are the 5 W.P.? I mean can we say that the only reason people are considering Kyoraku/Shunsui/Yoruichi/Urahara is cuz we have never been shown their Bankai, so what?
I as a reader am considering one or two of those guys as possible war potentials because we don't know how capable they are, why shouldn't I?
Juha didn't specify what a war potential ultimately is, Kenpachi, Yamamoto and Ichigo represent power but even Unohana could be one with her healing abilities, I am merely speculating, it doesn't have anything to do with Juha having or not having data about them.
