Bleach Chapter 508 Discussion
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- #6
Candor said:
Wannabiteme said:
Candor said:
It's shape doesn't say it's a zanpakuto, ok I'd take it that Bach's could be in Shikai form, but why do all of them have the same type of swords?
Look at Kenpachi's sword, 1st level. ps. There was some sentence about zanpakutos & shinigamis, Ichigo's father have said this to some arrancar, grand-fisher maybe.Read what I wrote again, how could all of the Quincy have the same type of sword?
Eh.. what? What is wrong with my answer? Zanpakuto looks like normal sword but can differ, like in above examples.
HOw? Easy - BAch have given them the same swords.Only few have Shikai as their sword's permanent form (till now we know only Ichigo and Kenpachi, there are others too), almost everyone else have the same form of a Zanpakuto, even the Arrancar. The form of Bach's sword is different, if we assume his Sword is a Zanpakuto in Shikai form then that'd be unique for him, why would the other Quincy have the same Zanpakuto? My point is that these look like just normal swords, not Shinigami's swords/Zanpakuto, that's what I'm pointing out here.
- #9
Why can't bach use his sword? If I'm not mistaken when a Shinigami releases his sword the release will happen anyway despite of the sword's condition. Sooo..? Where is your Bankai Juha?
Juha can't use bankai because his a quincy right? I'm pretty sure he isn't a shinigami and only shinigami can use bankai.
- #10
Zhou said:
Kanic said:
Not all mangas need to be like that, and you can't really demand that all mangakas must have the same tendencies. In other words some battles are tactical others are all-out brawls(otherwise known as DBZ style battles). Powerups are merely sth to keep you interested throughout the whole battle.
Yeah and both Aizen and Urahara are clearly tacticians.
I never mentioned either name. I don't get you. My point was that from the get-go Bleach promised sword-clash --ing battles. I see no point at ch.508 demanding a tactic-battle. Tactic-battles are cool and all but there is a limit to how much one can demand from a creator/author. One can demand sth like "a more reasonable battle system" where one isn't OP and the other can't even touch him but at the same time you can't really demand "smarter-battles" cuz this might as well be beyond the capabilities of the author.
Because grandy asked why fights in Bleach never involve tactics and has Urahara ever rushed into a battle without some sort of plan or tactic, no.
- #12
@Above two posts.
We've been through that countless times over the past chapters. Quince and Shinigami isn't some kind of hereditary ability, just like how Ishida learned how to be a Quincy, just like how the souls in Soul Society enter the army and learn how to be a Shinigami. Therefore learning both is feasible, and the fact that he was wielding a Zanpakutou (him AND other people of his organisation) pretty much verifies it.
It's not really. They're completely opposite abilities. That's the source of the whole conflict between shinigami and quincy: kill the hollows completely which alters the balance of souls (Quincy) or lead them to the other side (Shinigami). So no, having both is not, in theory, possible. There's also the fact that Quincy consider shinigami unholy or something like that. So I don't see why a Quincy would want to learn how to be become a shinigami.
If it at least the strongest Sternritters wouldn't need to steal (or fear) bankais.
But what the hell, Kubo is a known troll so it really wouldn't surprise if he had one.
- #13
It's shape doesn't say it's a zanpakuto, ok I'd take it that Bach's could be in Shikai form, but why do all of them have the same type of swords?
Look at Kenpachi's sword, 1st level. ps. There was some sentence about zanpakutos & shinigamis, Ichigo's father have said this to some arrancar, grand-fisher maybe?
"10 trilion of... " seems to be "big number" but we merely see 20-30? But I love chanting.
ps. Aizen once said that he achieved max level in shinigami's arts. Then he & Ichigo "level up" into x-times stronger creatures. Now Genryusai makes "mugetsu like attack" not even losing anything like Ichigo. And I think that he was able to do this long time ago before Aizen. Main question - is Aizen some stupid person not to train hard. I mean you can achieve all this power simply being shinigami, not some shinigami-hollow-something form.