Bleach Chapter 503 Discussion

Candor said:
Speaking about who's more powerful is meaningless imo in some kind of situations, this is one of them. Even if someone is weaker he can always defeat the stronger one by catching him off guard or if he has an advantage or something like that, that happens in lots of situations, either in anime or in real-life. That's what happened with Byakuya. Byakuya went through some character development in SS arc, and it continued during the next 2 arcs. not to mention the filler arcs. He developed a soft-point for Rukia, which eventually became his weak-point. The Quincy likely did some researches and studied the Shinigami before attacking, I mean no one would enter a war or do a raid without studying the situation and his chances of winning, or do some counter-measures. They obviously did and that appeared with driving Ichigo to HM and the Bankai stealing, who knows what's coming next.



I think Kubo is trying to make the Quincy look like some unbeatable group who are too strong they can annihilate Soul Society, but in fact if they can be defeated by Bankai then they're at the level of the Espada, there might also be strong guys and weak ones too, and their leader is at Aizen's and Yama-ji's level.



How did they get the information on the bankais?? Is there another traitor in the SS??

Zakeru1221 said:
just wondering but if Ichigo really wanted to break out of there couldn't he just go full hollow? (or even use his hollow mask)

or is it that he can't invoke them anymore...

that would be badass but kubo isn't known to be smart

just sayin

MEH-- said:
quadnia said:
Aren't these chapters getting less detailed, and less story.....

Bad points aside, Kenpachi bit was pretty cool but thats about it... i wonder what CRAZY AND RANDOM power up is gonna happen to the shinigami that makes them kill everyone.... Bleach is starting to get a bit shit.... It really is getting shitty, but I still read shit.MEH-- said:
quadnia said:
Aren't these chapters getting less detailed, and less story.....

Bad points aside, Kenpachi bit was pretty cool but thats about it... i wonder what CRAZY AND RANDOM power up is gonna happen to the shinigami that makes them kill everyone.... Bleach is starting to get a bit shit.... It really is getting shitty, but I still read shit.

LOL SAME

Three thougths:



Surprise, no answers regarding Byakuya...



His Majesty has a really weird naming sense...



Yamamoto gets to take revenge for...um...that dead guy

Candor said:
Han-yuu said:
Candor said:

Han-yuu said:
Fai said:
- Kenpachi explanations were hilarious. Its hilarious that all three cases pretty much make fun of shonen genre tropes - overbulky transformations, ability exposition chapters and "fighting yourself" plot devices. Its nice to see that at least one out of the big three has some self-awareness about those things and its hilarious and so in-character for Kenpachi. Sadly I do not see Kenpachi handling himself too well in this...Most likely Yamaji will have to step in once he ends dealing with the stealer of Sasakibe's bankai.

So how would you like to explain situation of other captains? Stern Ritter caught a senior captain and took his eye (or at-least injured his face pretty badly). While a very well known and strong captain (at-least strong as much as kenpachi if not more) never even able to touch a single Stern Ritter and bite the dust, while Kanpachi took out three without breaking a sweat.Kubo hinted in the new novels that he'll explain why Kenpachi is growing stronger at a frightening speed.

Byakuya not been able to touch a stern ritter while kenpachi taking out three need some hell of an explaination. Kuchiki clan is one of the the nobel houses in Soul Society. That alone makes him special. Not to mention he was not some cheap captain who supposed to rely completely on his bankai and just because they stole it, he became useless. The only reason i can understand is that Stern Ritters are just too dam strong, BUT Kenpachi taking out three like trash is something like he got DBangai level training in closed space before joining this war.

As I said, Kubo hinted there's gonna be an explanation why Kenpachi is too strong, we hardly know anything about him and his past, we just know he was a homeless who met Yachiru in a place where there was lots of bloodshed, we know nothing more. There's another thing, why does Kenpachi and Ichigo's Zanpakuto maintain their Shikai form? I know the basic explanation, but why only those 2? I think there's a connection between them somehow, not as relatives but as powers. They're also both growing stronger at a great speed. So we'll likely hear explanations about Ichigo and Kenpachi in this arc.



^pretty much this.



We do not even know Kenpachi's real name and there's supposedly a lot of "awesome things" for Kenpachi in this arc.

dude was so win. epicness on paper.  cant wait to see the old man tear it up

SleepnDreamn said:
If Rukia lives to reach Bankai at some point I so want her to have her own version of Senbonzakura Kageyoshi with icebergs or ice pillars emerging from frozen ground and shattering into loads of very sharp ice particles. Similar to Buyakuya She would drop it into the ground and as it sinks the ground would cover in ice.



Stop this teasing man.  



Now I have to see this. ^^

Fai said:
- Kenpachi explanations were hilarious. Its hilarious that all three cases pretty much make fun of shonen genre tropes - overbulky transformations, ability exposition chapters and "fighting yourself" plot devices. Its nice to see that at least one out of the big three has some self-awareness about those things and its hilarious and so in-character for Kenpachi. Sadly I do not see Kenpachi handling himself too well in this...Most likely Yamaji will have to step in once he ends dealing with the stealer of Sasakibe's bankai.



Now let's not overhype. Kenpachi IS strong, but he is NOT stronger than Senior Captains, Yamaji, Aizen or Ichigo.

Aizen in his first form feared to fight Yamaji. In form that was finger-flicked by Isshin. In second the scales tipped.

So how would you like to explain situation of other captains? Stern Ritter caught a senior captain and took his eye (or at-least injured his face pretty badly). While a very well known and strong captain (at-least strong as much as kenpachi if not more) never even able to touch a single Stern Ritter and bite the dust, while Kanpachi took out three without breaking a sweat.



Also If he keep up with the boss until Yamaji or Ichigo come to help him. How would you like to explain that? After all these are all dangai level opponents, and boss should be even higher level.



Maddo_scientisto said:
Now the real question is "What is Ichigo?". Being the son of a shinigami does not cut it, his power is way too strong.

What if he have a royal blood. Grandson of Soul King. Masaki eloped with Isshin and Soul King banned Isshin from Soul Society and took his powers etc but didn't do much because of the happiness of his daughter. Now I wonder if someone else come up with this theory before.



PerfecShawn said:
I think that Aizen was afraid to fight Kenpachi b/c his immense spirtual pressure would trump Kyoka Suigetsu just like Aizen's spiritual pressure made Soi Fon's Nigeki Kessatsu worthless against him.

If Yamamoto spiritual pressure can't break Kyoka Suigetsu, how would Kenpachi do that? not to mention is it even possible with just high level Riatsu? Also don't forget kenpachi had pretty hard time against fifth espada. Aizen was the boss. They didn't confront each other, it's not like an arrogant guy like Aizen would afraid of anyone.