hungry_bunny said:
I'll say it again, they ALL need proper training! Having a strong bloodline helped both him and Ishida become elites, but they still had to work hard for it too.
And Ichigo is special alright. But an experiment created in a lab? That's not likely, since his little sister is showing some pretty high potential too.
I don't really care if Ichigo's mother is a Quincy, Hollow or Human. With all the things Ichigo has gone through... his inner hollow, the Final Getsuga Tensho and the Fullbring powers, it's really not that strange that he's this strong.
The key lies in his experiences and that sword he is holding, and I wouldn't be surprised if his little sister could bring out a Getsu-sword too if she learned how to become a shingami.
It might have a LOT to do with the family too, since -getsu sword seems to be hereditary thing.
However Ichigo is clearly singled out of the rest. He might not have been lab-experiment, but his birth or the circumstances of his creation MIGHT have been some sort of experiment in that family. Half the SS seemed to know who he is since the start and both Ukitake and Shunsui talk about him as someone whom they have observed or known about for a LONG time.
Loggoyl said:
Ishin still has all of his power. He fought against Aizen. But we don't know what happened to him. He's not like urahara who was banned for some reason. We'll see it later.
From the way it was discussed, Isshin was forced to DO something that made him lose his power, which he only regained recently before the grand-fisher return.