hungry_bunny said:
All I was saying is that Sasakibe wasn't the first and only character who turned out to be a super powerful bankai user long after the SS arc (*cough* Ikkaku *cough*) and that power change wasn't the strangest one... I'm sure half the shingami community are strong enough to take on an army of Aizens now.
Shinigami community had some work in SS arc and after that all soul society looks like with total members of 20 or so, captains and vice-captain. no work for others. The last thing i wanted was a full fledged war between hollow and shingamis in Aizen arc, but it turned out one on one fight, which turned out Aizen vs Everyone fight. that was really big disappointment, i still feel. And now this arc started and we saw some normal shinigami, who can't even fight against some normal hollows and need ichigo help.
Fai said:
Monad said:
Sorry but your argument is full of shit because the same Ichigo that knocked down the guy in one punch had to fight like crazy and get hurt all over to beat Byakuya immediately after that.
If he was so superior why didn't he one shot Byakuya too?
Also considering this guy reached bankai before some of the oldest captains then he is presented as actually having being probably stronger than most of the captains so it should have been harder to defeat this guy in one move than defeating Byakuya.
Power fluctuations. As Ulquiorra noted, Ichigo's reiatsu was jumping around like crazy from the lowest point to the stronger than Ulquiorra point due to his "hollow side" messing stuff up. He did not get a stable reiatsu till jinzen, when he unified all his power sources into one.
Notice how Hichigo was owning Byakuya effortlessly? its not a powerboost, that reiatsu did not come out of nowhere. Ichigo was just unable to consistently use it due to interferences.
Han-yuu said:
Fai said:
iWin101 said:
Preche oh how I've missed your antics
Sometimes it makes me wonder why was Sasakibe was owned by ichigo back in the soul society arc when Sasakibe can use bankai...
Because Ichigo has more than 2xcaptain reiatsu, remember?
Pre-jinzen if his reiatsu was not fluctuating, Ichigo only woul dhave problems wtih top four, unohana, ukitake, shunsui and yamamoto.
Oh come on.. he just hit him bare handed and knocked him out. You call it 2xCaptain power? He didn't even used his Shikai. Although He used his bankai and hollow powers against Byakuya but he was standing there after getting slashed up and got away after his bankai sword disappeared. Does that mean Byakuya is on the captain commander level? nah.. that would make Ichigo 2xCommander level.
Fai said:
This is the guy who not even at full power trashed ulquiorra, who was close in power to the other three(since the top four were VLs are quite close in terms of strength) and the likes of stark or halibel would play around with non-senior captains as if with toys, to the point that they had to be taken out through incredibly haxx abilities.
So no its not surprising that Ichigo at full resolve during surprise entrance, would knock out one of more stronger captain level shinigami.
You're saying Ichigo trashed Ulquiorra, not even at full power? O__o
Ulquiorra himself said that Ichigo as his top of fluctuations is far above him in power.
SHikai and Bankai DOES NOT increase your reiatsu unless you are Ichigo, since Ichigo's bankai is based on speed and power increase.
Ichigo was a monster, with a whole lot more reiatsu, more than Ulquiorra. Do you have any doubt that Ulquiorra could give a fair fight to most of captains, with exception of power four and stomp the weaker ones?
And yes, Ichigo, in his ichigonator form, which is far inferior to his united reiatsu of post jinzen, casually trashed ulquiorra.
Ichigo's potential has always been HUGE. THe problem was that he was basically an undergrad dropout in terms of shinigami arts. Once he got ahold of the power he became more powerful than aizen or yamamoto.
The fac thtat there's something seriously wrong and special and unique aobut Ichigo, his birth and powers, has always been the point of bleach, ever since the first chapter.
Whoa.. You're reading different bleach.
I blame this guy.
grandy_UiD said:
It's just bad writing. "Show, don't tell". If we had seen him being important/awesome and/or doing SOMETHING except standing behind Yamamoto at all times, this would've been a different story and all of this would've gained some credibility. But Kubo simply telling us "he was awesome" just doesn't cut it. It just fails to make his death have any impact whatsoever on the reader.
Alice is a badass... god forbid—apply her badassery in a scene or two. LOL. That's what happened here. xD
