Bleach Chapter 483 Discussion

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  • #18
noobalm said:
that Vandenreich is german word

No, it's not.



The chapter title, however, is german. So yeah, the Quincy relation is obvious.
 
  • #21
huznme said:
Can't wait for more. This is certainly going to be interesting. Off-topic - but is the Bleach manga going to end march 27th as well?Nope, the manga will continue for many years.



5 days mean 7200 minutes so that's a potential 7200 Kubo Tite-style chapters before SS is destroyed.



lolwutfool said:




I don't think he tried to dispel or steal but completely destroy his Bankai since the fullbring parts were what looked like crumbling.



Correct me if I'm wrong tho ;oThat's not an easy thing to correct when I have no proof of my theory :P



I just thought that it was strange, why destroy a person's bankai when it's easier to just kill him from behind while he's eating bread in his room with his friends...
 
  • #23
Wannabiteme said:


On the 17st page, some guy are carrying foil(?)[ [url]http://www.ikonet.com/en/visualdictionary/sports-and-games/combat-sports/fencing/fencing-weapons.php[/url] ]

Is it some kind of reference to Spain? :D





I'm pretty sure the foil is Sasakibe's zanpakuto in shikai form.
 
  • #24
Maddo_scientisto said:
Monad said:


Btw i don't get it. Can Ichigo still use hollow and Fullbring stuff? Logically he should have lost the ability since those powers where stolen from him?



Shinigami, Quincy and Fullbring are teaching and not a race, this further prove it up.



When Ginjou stole Ichigo's "fullbring" he shortened it as such because he thought that he had gotten the entirerity of Ichigo's reiatsu. He could have said 'I got your reiatsu' and it would have been the same.

The gotei 13 restored Ichigo's reiatsu but it's not like he has forgotten how to use fullbring arts neither can 'fullbring' be stolen from him as it is simply a way of manipulating reiatsu.



This has been further hinted many time especially when Ichigo started to use GT in his fullbring.



Ichigo is just a massive mass of energy and a prodigy at learning which allow him to master more than one teaching in a very short time.



The closest thing to different race that Bleach has to offer are minus soul and plus soul as introduced back in chapter 1. Basically hollow and the rest of the souls.

Spiritually aware soul can be teached anything.

It's been shown since the beginning that potent soul in rukongai are teached the way of the shinigami rather than them being one by birth. One can train his spiritual awareness without any said teaching as it was also shown when we saw Renji's and Rukia's past.

SS just got control over most soul in the human realm and all soul in the SS so it is quite easy for them to get all the potent souls in their rank and have them follow their teaching and not another one.



Shinigami arts cleanse souls, Quincy arts kill souls and Fullbring arts manipulate souls. Imo it's very likely that these three arts decend from the magic hunter that were mentionned in the past and that we'll most probably see some character mastering more than one of these arts.



So you mean he has Fullbring but not hollow?  But Fullbring is basically using hollow powers. Is a teaching based on the hollow type of reiatsu and not the shinigami quincy type. So basically is a teaching for a minus soul instead of a plus soul and as you said those are different. When he got his shinigami powers back he only got plus soul type reiatsu because that's what shinigami have and since he already lost his minus type reiatsu that was fullbring and basically hollow then he shouldn't be able to use fullbring powers.   



Fai said:


As for Ichigo: Hollow powers have been merged into his shinigami powers and fullbring has become part of his overall power too(as seen by parts of the armor being incorporated into his outfit). Ichigo learned fullbring thus he can use it, he has condition fitting the need for it.



I don't see how he can currently have merged hollow powers with shinigami ones. He had that kind of power before but then he lost all his shinigami powers. Since shinigami was the ability he knew how to use to bring his reiatsu out hiis hollow powers found a way to merge with that and come out too. We can assume he still had hollow powers after he lost his shinigami ones but knew no way to bring them out and fullbring allowed him to do just that(fullbring is based on hollow powers as we are clearly let to believe). So when Ginzo took his fullbring he basically took his hollow type reiatsu and Ichigo was left with only his human energy until the shinigami gave him back shinigami reiatsu. That reiatsu though has no hollow type in it since it was from shinigami. So why should he still have hollow powers merged with his shinigami since that type of powers where pulled out of him and he only got back the shinigami type and not the hollow one?
 
  • #25
hungry_bunny said:


I just thought that it was strange, why destroy a person's bankai when it's easier to just kill him from behind while he's eating bread in his room with his friends...



We had a huge focus on Ichigo's powers for quite some time and we learned that he can literally break through the dimensions with his attack in the previous arc.



Most likely his power is crucial in some way of hampering the badguy plans or something IF Ivan is on the side of badguys.



Most likely I am betting that we will have TWO badguy teams just as in world war II - German and Russian sides.



kennikitty said:
lolwutfool said:
Wannabiteme said:
KriegsErkerklärung - What does this mean? I found something like "war bay clarification" on ggogle translate.



KriegsErkerklärung, I found something like 'Declaration/State of War' I think it was.

Kriegserklärung is german and means "declaration of war".



For a moment, I was afraid Tite Kubo will go with the "'Let's steal Ichigos power again and let him work hard to get them back again, because two times wasn't enought." Good for us, it doesn't seem this way. And our new enemies? Some kind of Quincy-Hollow-something. Uhm, yeah, great and all.



A quincy with an arrancar mask who is capable of casting a kido.
 
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