Bleach Chapter 475 Discussion

Bankai vs Bankai next!

Zell182 said:
I have to admit I applaud Bleach for not simply being black vs. white but Ichigo kind of spoils it with his need to "protect blah blah".



Actually even that sounds good in the whole gray zone.



Ichigo is not doing this because he thinks that person A is badguy and people B are good guys.



he sees Ginjou as a threat, more imminent one and he knows he owes quite a bit to the people ginjou targeting. So Ginjou, wielding shitload of powers and on crusade against SS obviously is a priority over SS conspiracies that are far less imminent.



I am pretty sure Ichigo will deal with that too. He is just prioritizing.



I am pretty sure that once Ginjou battle ends Ichigo would turn around and express a very clear and calm "what the hell guys, explain now" to the captains (although kubo seems to be setting up a  plot twist already with fullbringers having survived, Ginjou's plan still being unknown, tsuki's past still not revealed,  tsuki still being alive and riruka possibly in rukia)

Ichigo in Bankai looks amazing, but i dont like how Tensa Zang looks now.

Ginjo Bankai? eh...



I guess we will end this fight/arc in 2-3 chapters? I hope.

Anyway, 4/5 D:

Bleach has so little text ... I can just scroll down -> next page and it takes less than 3 seconds a page.

What a quick chap. Ichigo's bankai doesn't look that bad. His best transformation is still the time he fought Aizen.

Ginjo's bankai makes him look more like a hollow.

Sigh... What was the point of last chapter reveal? It's as if Kubo got bored of his own plot developments, like a child with a toy he doesn't want anymore. Why trying to paint SS black if Ichigo doesn't want to fight them? Why introducing a character with the purpose of making Ichigo mistrust SS if Ichigo is more stubborn and adamant than a slab of concrete?

I'm a shonen hero!!! オレがみんなを守るぜエ!!! If someone critcizes me and my allies, I put my hands on my ears and go "lalalala"!!!



And I see that Ginjou's powers ripped off Shinigami powers down to everything, even the ability to go bankai. How oddly convenient.

Yesssssssss BANKAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII, not just 1! but 2 lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder who is stronger now.:P

What a disastrous chapter. :\ Oh well, what can Kubo do? Considering that last chapter was the most asinine piece of garbage ever.



What's with Ichigo's outfit? :\ :\

Ginjou :\ :\ :\



Ginjou said "I didn't want to kill you" but wasn't he going to 'retreat' 15 chapters ago? Kubo's villains are not appealing.

Also its nice to see a main character with actually clear head.  For a second I have forgotten that Ichigo actually is top of his class in the school without even trying to do anything.  Of course he would have suspected Ukitake, especially after all the manipulations he was target of in last two years of his life.



he trusted Ginjou because Ginjou WAS good back then(due to Tsukishima).Which makes sense that Ginjou did not want to underestimate Ichigo and wanted to go with whole getting cut ruse to be able to fool him.



Also I doubt he has put the whole problem with SS behind and ignores it. Its clearly the situation of prioritizing - Ginjou is a threat with this level of power to the people he cares about. Ginjou knows too much and he has information about his family and his father.  Thus ending Ginjou is a whole lot more important right now for Ichigo than dealing with shit that while very important is far less imminent.



Also this confirms that Ichigo does doubt Urahara due to the whole Aizen conversation with Urahara.  And he knows something is up with Isshin but he honors his father so till what Isshin is not ready to tell does NOT come to bite them all in the ass, he is honoring his silence.



however Jackie is "nowhere to be found" = alive. Moe is alive too. tsuki is "not dead yet" and Riruka is most likely merging/hiding in rukia. And we still do not know the exact plan Ginjou had. Not to mention the whole point of Captains not interfering and rukia wondering about it hinting that SS is STILL not entirely clear in the open of why they are here.



Not to mention Chad and Orihime both have multiple powerups they were prevented to show and Urahara is heading to the scene.



Whatever happens it will happen soon as everything seems to be lining up.



Gradation said:
Remember when Bankai was a rare thing?  And not everyone had it and just throw it out like it was a normal thing to do.

Current number of people with bankai: around ~20

Current number of people who have MASTERED their bankaI: less than ten.

Current number of shinigami: gazillions.



Seems quite rare to me.

haha i knew it that Ginjou would pull out ichi's bankai now we have fake vs real that should be interesting.

hungry_bunny said:
Crouchez said:
Oh and on an another note - am I the only one finding it funny that in those double spread pages the second half is mainly blank smoke flowing?In the case with Ichigo, you can't really put it against KT since I think he was trying to draw a mirror image of the first time Ichigo used bankai. Not counting the color, it looks the same... just less detailed... to ehm... make it more clean I guess.........

<img src="http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm281/hungry_bunny/Banka1and2.jpg" />



Hmmm...At first I guess it seemed like it was mirrored but it's not really. In the first picture his cape(if you will) was flowing from the left side of his outfit and the his sword was in his right hand. For it to be mirrored it would be flowing from the left side and the sword would still be in his right hand but the sword remains in his right hand and the cape(or w.e. you wanna call it) is flowing from the right side of his  outfit. Besides all of that, it's obvious which pose looks more bad ass. Stop slacking Kubo!

this week's chapter ended in a blink of an eye.



Well, at least we know that Ichigo is not as dumb as some people thought he would be.





Ginjo's bankai form looks abit like Syazel.. ?



Isnt Tensa Zangetsu abit longer? It's like an extension with that 3 pointy edges.