Bleach Chapter 461 Discussion

Since Ginjou has become a bad guy, I noticed a skull on his sword.I wonder if the full bring don't react with the personality of the owner.



Even the shunpo and the strengh of Itchigo are bigger. It is incredible.



Where are the other fullbringers ?  Did they already run away letting Ginjou alone ? In view of the situation I cannot blame them. Even Ginjou tried to do it.

06blackheart said:
I really dont like Ginjo's new outfit but anyway I did not like the guy in the first place so it does not matter. Now the real question is... where the hell are all the other fullbringer and Inoue/Chad ... Ginjo is in trouble and no one is helping him...



Tension buildup.



Can'thave ichigo being giddy over new powers and heartfelt talk about you changed thing if it DOES NOT look like badguys are going to loose. Once this whole motivational speech ends, others will appear. Tsuki has Ichigo's whole family(minus Isshin) friends and classmates as "voluntary" hostages, its obvious they are there to be used for the sake of escaping.



Then we have fullbringers. Aka a kid who could just put everyone here into a game console, a butler who could just put on some rule like "if you don't let us escape everyone dies" and  others who all have certain degree of reality warping.



Then we have char who should be far more than enough to distract captain or two and Inoue who can easily incapacitated whoever attacks tsuki with a counter shield and god knows what else she can do(we know she has another new attack, she tried to use it against Ginjou during Ichigo's training, but was stopped).



Current situation is needed in this light to counteract all the sulking Ichigo did, showing him that what he did was not pointless, bla bla. Once that is done the rest of the world will return, most likely.



Its obvious that its not the end of fbs. All of them most likely have different abilities in their fbs, not to mention we have the foreshadowed riruka/inoue fight/scene, riruka's possible switching sides to ichigo's team, Tsukishima's mysterious behavior about being recorded, their goals and other things.

What??  Ginjo was like Ichigo??  A Substitute Shinigami??

TheStarEffect said:
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TheStarEffect said:
What I don't get is why Toshiro is there, what did Ichigo ever do to be frwends with him? I guess bringing in a popular character will boost the attention given to Bleach in a chapter I guess.





toshiro wants Aizen dead. DEAD DEAD. Especially after hinamori trick he pulled. Ichigo defeated Aizen.



So did Wolfie, but he isn't there. I guess Toshiro is a rep of the "Aizen pissed us off" club.

yes but well, wolfie was not made to stab and skewer his most precious person . Toshiro was. If it wasn't for Aizen, Tosen wouldn't have died, so Komamura lost his best friend because of Aizen.



which does not indulge a same value of personal interest and grudge like being made to stab your would-be waifu does.

Love this chapter.;) Ichigo is so awesome.;)

Arashi89 said:
Hypno-girl said:




Also SS =! Gotei 13



It still does not contradict what I said in last chapter discution where SS is reproaching Ichigo's something and want him dead but that some of the shinigami would still side with him. I simply did not expect the whole gotei 13 to side with him.



You just contradicted yourself in this statement: you claimed that some members of Gotei 13 were hating Ichigo, but this chapter demonstrated that everyone agreed to Yamamoto's decision to help him. Besides, why the gotei 13 would hate their savior?



some members of gotei13 do hate ichigo (ex: mayuri),. Its not democracy. they don't need to "agree" with him. his word is the law. however just because majority of Gotei13 supported his decision, does not mean that everyone did(notice that some captains are NOT present in the meeting), nor that it will sit well with everyone else in Soul Society.



Then we still do not know context due to one missing ss flashback of rukia's dialogue.

Fai said:
as for other part... lol@ rukia or renji being enough to take down either miss hogyokuv2 or person who is fast enough to tag most of captains minus the power four.



Yes, Rukia and Renji alone can take down someone with basically no combat experience. As for Chad, it's a rule of Bleach that he can never win. Ever.

Finally something more about substitute shinigami.

As I thought where were someone before Ichigo.