D.Gray-man Chapter 225 Discussion

  • #42
sevki said:
Nice art as always, but useless chapter in terms of story progression.



I mean, this comes after 6 long months, and this is what happens? Power of bonds, friendship, love, whatever it is, and then Allen comes back... Yeah great thanks... And Nea does not like Tyki, yep so important point...



These 34 pages could have been used to go to the mansion from the previous chapters for example? Idk I just want sth faster and more about the main plot.

*rolls eyes* you shouldnt expect every chapter to be story rich, besides how fast-paced and weird would it feel if that was the case? hoshinos pace is fine as it is, we are just unlucky that we get max 4 chapters per year, but thats enough for me. i like this pace and i wouldnt want hoshino to pace it up.



Darklight0303 said:
Stark700 said:
What a beautiful way for Allen to return.



Indeed, the artwork is great as always. I'm hoping D Gray Man will be getting more chapters this year.



The word you're looking for is rushed not beautiful. All it takes is for magic Johnny sue to call his name and boom the great threat that was going to erase Allen forever is erased? Please.



Other than the johnny part the chapter was pretty solid.

i dont see anything wrong with that, allen wanted his body back and he got it back. nea fainted because allen took his body back, thats how it is



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i seriously dont get you guys, i mean we finally get a new chapter and you are complaining about the pace? the pace is fine, nothing is rushed and nothing is dragged out - hoshinos pace was always like that. if you re-read the chapters you will notice that. and i bet hoshino doesnt plan to keep this quarterly release either, but she wants her injury to get better and she also wants to keep drawing d gray man. at least be a bit happy that she doesnt go full hiatus until her injury is healed
 
  • #43
This manga is a clusterfuck but the art is great and that's  why i'm holding on.
 
  • #45
"What is the purpose of this story anymore?"



It is and has always been to defeat the millennium earl.

But faced with the impossibility of the task, Lvellie is searching for a way to do so: His current plan seems to use the fourteenth, the "Noah who shouldn't exist" to hope and win the war.



Problem is: The fourteenth is in Allen's body and will cause Allen to die when he completely awakens.



Allen wants to know more about the fourteenth to try and escape his demise.



 
  • #46
Which pacing issues?



There are passing issues only for a quaterly release but mangas are not meant to be followed like that. They're meant to be followed by volumes.



Anyways, I'm particulary interested in the "having a meal with you if out of question Joyd, that reincarnated form of yours, I could laugh and spit the food I ate".



Any ideas about that anyone?



Regarding Allen getting back his body, you seem to ignore that the process of "noahfication" is a very slow process. Most Noah seem to not even go as far as being completely possessed by the memory (Actually apart Skin Bolic, the current noah appear to still have their human mindsets, only a bit twisted).

Their must be a way to control your memory, why can't it be "power of friendship"?



Remember that Allen's awakeneing was forced by the earl. It would have taken years without that. There is a reason the akumas and Noah keep harassing Allen. The goal is to make him snap and allow Nea to take over (which he did). But Before Allen's personality completely fade, there can be personality switches. Nea should come back as soon as Allen is emotionally and/or physically weakened and every time he shhould stay longer until he stays forever.



Unless of course, Allen finds a way to erase his presence... But at this point what happened is in the continuity of what happened before.



Beautiful art btw.
 
  • #47
Darklight0303 said:
Extect said:
Darklight0303 said:
eblin said:
sevki said:
Nice art as always, but useless chapter in terms of story progression.



I mean, this comes after 6 long months, and this is what happens? Power of bonds, friendship, love, whatever it is, and then Allen comes back... Yeah great thanks... And Nea does not like Tyki, yep so important point...



These 34 pages could have been used to go to the mansion from the previous chapters for example? Idk I just want sth faster and more about the main plot.

*rolls eyes* you shouldnt expect every chapter to be story rich, besides how fast-paced and weird would it feel if that was the case? hoshinos pace is fine as it is, we are just unlucky that we get max 4 chapters per year, but thats enough for me. i like this pace and i wouldnt want hoshino to pace it up.



Darklight0303 said:
Stark700 said:
What a beautiful way for Allen to return.



Indeed, the artwork is great as always. I'm hoping D Gray Man will be getting more chapters this year.



The word you're looking for is rushed not beautiful. All it takes is for magic Johnny sue to call his name and boom the great threat that was going to erase Allen forever is erased? Please.



Other than the johnny part the chapter was pretty solid.

i dont see anything wrong with that, allen wanted his body back and he got it back. nea fainted because allen took his body back, thats how it is



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i seriously dont get you guys, i mean we finally get a new chapter and you are complaining about the pace? the pace is fine, nothing is rushed and nothing is dragged out - hoshinos pace was always like that. if you re-read the chapters you will notice that. and i bet hoshino doesnt plan to keep this quarterly release either, but she wants her injury to get better and she also wants to keep drawing d gray man. at least be a bit happy that she doesnt go full hiatus until her injury is healed



Oh cool you want something so you're supposed to get it? Wow that's so easy. Alright then all Allen needs to do is want the Earl to die of a heart attack and boom the war's over! Genius.



Neah is supposed to be a threat that is almost impossible to avoid and all it takes is some wimpy nerd calling Allen's name to push him back. If you don't see the pacing issue there then there is NO helping you.



I don't see how you can complain about this and have fairy tail in your favorites.



Btw the main threat of Neah wasn't that he would take over Allen like that but that he'll gain more control over time, as it was shown in the past when it showed some of the current Noah's awaken (don't remember where this was). You should also realize the fact tha Neah was concentrating on activating ALLENS innocence. I don't see how that couldn't also tip the scale in Allens favor, especially as it has protected Allen before.



Simple. two reasons. One I don't bother updating this list in ever and my standards depend on what series I am reading/watching. I have higher standards for DGM than for FT. I know it must be shocking to hear you don't have to hold UNIVERSAL standards to enjoy something. Also DGM was on my favorites back when it had a RELIABLE and consistent schedule it followed. You can thank Hoshino's poor management of the releases for its removal.



Hot damn. Not universal standards. may as well just change your standards so you like everything if you want to.  



I can understand getting upset with poor releases but that doesn't really make the series itself worst? But I won't really fault that and I'm sure there's a lot of people who feel the same way about HxH or berserk. Though really I don't care that much whether it's one of your favorite series or not, it's your life.
 
  • #48
I don't hink Wisely knows the entire truth since he asked Road for some informations about the mystery of Nea.

However he definitely is reluctant about given the informations he has and can give to the other Noahs. (was quite logic given that Sheril didn't ask him to read in Bookman's mind, which means Wisely didn't agree to do that).



"what goes constantly through my mind tho, do you all remember than nea killed 11 noah? you probably do

but with what did he kill them? how did he kill them? besides, why did he do that? and why did he spare road?"



Nea definitely had his own noah power and it must be terrifying. We needed  221 chapters to finally discover what was the earl's (and I think he still has more).

I suppose the the original abilities of the earl were split along with his body and Mana got the akuma making and soul consuming abilities while Nea got some other abilities.



Also, even without their ability, Nea must have had a quite overpowered dark matter-enhanced body at the time.



I'm not sure that Nea spared Road. she was at the earl's side for the final confrontation so maybe he just didn't have the time to before he himself got killed. Or maybe he just couldn't... As far as we know Road is pretty much invincible...
 
  • #49
WiselyKamelot said:
I don't hink Wisely knows the entire truth since he asked Road for some informations about the mystery of Nea.

However he definitely is reluctant about given the informations he has and can give to the other Noahs. (was quite logic given that Sheril didn't ask him to read in Bookman's mind, which means Wisely didn't agree to do that).



"what goes constantly through my mind tho, do you all remember than nea killed 11 noah? you probably do

but with what did he kill them? how did he kill them? besides, why did he do that? and why did he spare road?"



Nea definitely had his own noah power and it must be terrifying. We needed  221 chapters to finally discover what was the earl's (and I think he still has more).

I suppose the the original abilities of the earl were split along with his body and Mana got the akuma making and soul consuming abilities while Nea got some other abilities.



Also, even without their ability, Nea must have had a quite overpowered dark matter-enhanced body at the time.



I'm not sure that Nea spared Road. she was at the earl's side for the final confrontation so maybe he just didn't have the time to before he himself got killed. Or maybe he just couldn't... As far as we know Road is pretty much invincible...



nea can control the ark with his ability as long as he reads the lyrics in his head, but i think there is still something linked to the piano itself

but also if nea has his noah powers, why didnt he activate them? why did he (want to) use allens innocence? is it linked to the piano? is his ability controlling things (not only the ark) with his piano? but why was he holding a sword in his hand in chapter 215 then? if controlling things with a piano is his ability, it is probably not his only ability.

and if fighting with innocence isnt painful to nea, why was it panful for allen then?

why would he have "no time" to kill road if he had the time to kill 11 other noah?

road isnt invincible, apocryphos temporarily "killed" her
 
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