D.Gray-man Chapter 225 Discussion

FT_anime_fan said:
Holly crap, I was hoping for a new chapter. But wasn’t expecting a 30+ page and Allen final back! Almost out of nowhere, with power of friendship?... OK.



The biggest issue I have with this chapter is it really hasn’t used it large amount of pages to move the plot along. Cass and point. We still in that bloody ally way! We have years old questions. Allen learned he has a Noah in him and it’s his Fathers brother and questions if he truly loved him? Not only has it been not answered more question on top.



Allen is a lot older than he thinks, as he now ‘the 14th’ and offered his body to him. (Don’t misinterpreted yaoi fan girls.) Yet he’s in a body of a child or hasn’t aged at all. Can’t remember all the details, been a couple years.



A couple of chapter ago Allen stated he’s going to get himself some god damn answered, which I though was an indication for some explanations final. Then we got the 7 pages… Not even sure I can call it a chapter and here we get the odd line, “Spit up the food ate”? That left Tyki uneasily, so we can add that to the list.



Good to see Hoshino art hasn’t suffered by doing a large chapter with her hand injury.



I really hate to be overly negative as I really enjoyed it overall. But the release schedule and her health. I don’t feel they can avoid to take their sweet time with this.



I hope this is a sign of a solid time consistence and not the exception for D gray-man.



Oh yea, I thought of some more unanswered question: When Allen fight’s Krory and knocked out a skull lie thing appeared and upgrade his cursed eye. (That statement makes no scenes out of context.) Also the black moon dram world, that Allen and Lenalee seen. That fans at the time thought meant they were the hearts or something. And haven’t seen it since Allen near death and so Nea for the first time.



Did I miss any?



Yeah I remember something about Allen hasn't aged at all.

From what I remember, Cross Marian and Allen are acquainted with Nea. During an incident where Nea is dying, Allen offered his body to become the host for 14th Noah.

So this is my assumption. When Allen became the host, he lost all of his memories and for some unknown reason he turned into a child.

So yeah, he is much older than he looks.



Been waiting for so long for new updates T_T

I don't care long does it take to get new chapters released, as long as the author does not discontinue or drops the series, I'm happy to wait. ☺️

Glad to see a chapter after all this time however I was already struggling to understand the plot before but now it's even worse with all the long breaks between the chapters.

I think it's unlikely for Nea to be able to use both powers from both sides, as it'd shown in the chapter. Nea couldn't get it working, yet alone for it to form. But it is a possibility in future chapters.



For your question as to "the way he reincarnated" I believe it'd had to do something with the previous generation of Noahs, where Nea was in his own body. Alive and all.



I may be wrong about this. But I think he hated Noahs more than humans. Not sure, just a theory I got. Judging the way he spoked about them.

hmm...



the earl / nea backstory has been... interesting... to say the least..



seems like nea wants to kill the earl for what he did to mana and seemed somewhat distressed when the earl claimed to him that mana had gone somewhere he could never return from...



nea/mana are from when the earl split himself into two beings... but later the earl personality came back to mana and he ate and devoured mana but nea put his noah powers in old allen who for some reason is regressing in Age? (or at least until he became a kid and then grew older again?) was this translated correct or is this something she will have to explain more in detail later??



also, the mana personality came back to the surface later for a while when he lived with allen as a kid (thats why he found allen according to nea), perhaps the "earl" that came and "turned mana into an akuma" when he cursed allen was the earl suit and it was empty at the time? no idea.



i like that allen did research on the soul/source of life and that the earl eats that from people.



is Tyki Neas old body perhaps? also curious about the spit up the food i ate line...



anyway i liked this arc okay unlike some people. i guess this arc was all about finding allen after he ran away from the order, giving proper introduction to nea and telling nea/mana past as well as the relationship between the earl/nea/tyki... all which will be very important to the plot going forward obviously...



i just hope the next arc when allen goes to the house, sees bookman etc is more plot heavy and action heavy. a nice battle arc on the lines of Noahs Arc arc would be nice (multiple 1v1 battles between members of the order and the noah, battles that actually have a conclusion instead of just standing around talking looking cool in the background while the main plot takes center stage), although seeing the earls ablities and him go insane this arc was pretty cool, but it  wasnt really a proper battle as we didnt get to see nea fight back or use his abilities we just got to see the earl rage and consume those two order dues.



havent gotten a REAL noah vs order battle in a while, and would be nice to see in the current art/storytelling style.

FT_anime_fan said:
Ginnnn said:
FT_anime_fan said:
Holly crap, I was hoping for a new chapter. But wasn’t expecting a 30+ page and Allen final back! Almost out of nowhere, with power of friendship?... OK.



The biggest issue I have with this chapter is it really hasn’t used it large amount of pages to move the plot along. Cass and point. We still in that bloody ally way! We have years old questions. Allen learned he has a Noah in him and it’s his Fathers brother and questions if he truly loved him? Not only has it been not answered more question on top.



Allen is a lot older than he thinks, as he now ‘the 14th’ and offered his body to him. (Don’t misinterpreted yaoi fan girls.) Yet he’s in a body of a child or hasn’t aged at all. Can’t remember all the details, been a couple years.



A couple of chapter ago Allen stated he’s going to get himself some god damn answered, which I though was an indication for some explanations final. Then we got the 7 pages… Not even sure I can call it a chapter and here we get the odd line, “Spit up the food ate”? That left Tyki uneasily, so we can add that to the list.



Good to see Hoshino art hasn’t suffered by doing a large chapter with her hand injury.



I really hate to be overly negative as I really enjoyed it overall. But the release schedule and her health. I don’t feel they can avoid to take their sweet time with this.



I hope this is a sign of a solid time consistence and not the exception for D gray-man.



Oh yea, I thought of some more unanswered question: When Allen fight’s Krory and knocked out a skull lie thing appeared and upgrade his cursed eye. (That statement makes no scenes out of context.) Also the black moon dram world, that Allen and Lenalee seen. That fans at the time thought meant they were the hearts or something. And haven’t seen it since Allen near death and so Nea for the first time.



Did I miss any?



Yeah I remember something about Allen hasn't aged at all.

From what I remember, Cross Marian and Allen are acquainted with Nea. During an incident where Nea is dying, Allen offered his body to become the host for 14th Noah.

So this is my assumption. When Allen became the host, he lost all of his memories and for some unknown reason he turned into a child.

So yeah, he is much older than he looks.



Been waiting for so long for new updates T_T

I don't care long does it take to get new chapters released, as long as the author does not discontinue or drops the series, I'm happy to wait. ☺️





She toughed it out this long, I don't think she drop it at this point. (God probably jinx it now.) The thing is I almost wish she would pass the drawing over to someone else, her art is beautiful and that's something I tip my hat at her. Which can't be understated giving her hand condition but bloody hell. As I pointed out in first post, get the thumb out! This is the first real chapter in what feels like forever and it wasted this with content that can be filled with half the pages. If she wants to tell the story at her own pace, she needs someone can deliver it or  she needs to condense it so it gets somewhere in this life time.



I still got that questions whether or not is Allen the "Helix of Life" I wish there was more explanation about the topic. Also Allen's not aging at all. It's could be something with his powers from 35 years ago (that is if he did indeed have powers from that period of time)

Nothing useful to the plot? Oh, I could list some that you idiots seem to lack the capacity to notice.



1) It's been straight up confirmed that Neah and Tyki have a connection.



2) Wisely is aware of the entire truth (Why can't he? He's the Noah of Wisdom) but is hiding the knowledge from the others.



3) Neah just attempted to activate Allen's innocence. He doesn't seem concerned by the idea of becoming a Fallen One so there is an actual possibility that he has the potential to activate it... or he's just that suicidal and reckless.

eblin said:
WiselyKamelot said:
I don't hink Wisely knows the entire truth since he asked Road for some informations about the mystery of Nea.

However he definitely is reluctant about given the informations he has and can give to the other Noahs. (was quite logic given that Sheril didn't ask him to read in Bookman's mind, which means Wisely didn't agree to do that).



"what goes constantly through my mind tho, do you all remember than nea killed 11 noah? you probably do

but with what did he kill them? how did he kill them? besides, why did he do that? and why did he spare road?"



Nea definitely had his own noah power and it must be terrifying. We needed  221 chapters to finally discover what was the earl's (and I think he still has more).

I suppose the the original abilities of the earl were split along with his body and Mana got the akuma making and soul consuming abilities while Nea got some other abilities.



Also, even without their ability, Nea must have had a quite overpowered dark matter-enhanced body at the time.



I'm not sure that Nea spared Road. she was at the earl's side for the final confrontation so maybe he just didn't have the time to before he himself got killed. Or maybe he just couldn't... As far as we know Road is pretty much invincible...



nea can control the ark with his ability as long as he reads the lyrics in his head, but i think there is still something linked to the piano itself

but also if nea has his noah powers, why didnt he activate them? why did he (want to) use allens innocence? is it linked to the piano? is his ability controlling things (not only the ark) with his piano? but why was he holding a sword in his hand in chapter 215 then? if controlling things with a piano is his ability, it is probably not his only ability.

and if fighting with innocence isnt painful to nea, why was it panful for allen then?

why would he have "no time" to kill road if he had the time to kill 11 other noah?

road isnt invincible, apocryphos temporarily "killed" her



I think the ark is a magical device that was programmed to be control by no one by the earl, Road and Nea. I don't think this has a link with Nea's noah ability.



I think Nea said before that he still needed time to get used to this body (he had even some trouble to move) so he must be in the incapacity to use his ability for now.

I don't think it was painful to Allen to use crown clown, or maybe I missed something? I only remember that he was in pain when he stabbed himself.



Regarding Road, I mean that she was just next to the earl. The earl must have killed Nea before he killed Road. The murders of the 11 other Noah must have happened before that, during months or even years.

Yes Road was hurt by Apo, but it was made clear that Apo's power is special. Without this ability, it seems logically impossible to kill Road.

What a beautiful way for Allen to return.



Indeed, the artwork is great as always. I'm hoping D Gray Man will be getting more chapters this year.