Hunter x Hunter Chapter 357 Discussion

BackgroundChara said:
Some people did enjoy Fairy Tail so why not?

I'm expecting a proper conclusion mainly because of how long it already is, not some bulshit conclusion like this, i couldn't care less about who gonna die and who gonna survive, if anything I did expect Hisoka to survive.



What makes it bad isHisoka become Kurapika V2? what kind of conclusion is that? you say that he want to reduce the number of Chrollo skill? so where did the Hisoka that fight just for the thrills go? the good ol Hisoka that prefer fighting people at his peak like he did with Gon? this development practically change him to a completely new character and render his character redundant because Kurapika already exist



And not to mention the way he revived from dead is again, ridiculous.

Are you seriously comparing Fairy Tail to HxH? You are expecting conclusion of how long what is? The fight? Considering just how much expectation was raised before this fight happened, again, it was extremely underwhelming. As for him being Kurapika V2, it's clearly not the choice. Of course his character will evolve, since something happened which caused his character to evolve - he lost the fight. He himself said so - "I bit more than I can swallow. This time, I faced an opponent on his own terms. Next time, the terms will be my own". This is alienating Hisoka from Kurapika completely. And to mention again that the way he was revived was under the already established rules of he universe.

holy shit!

hisoka is unstoppable

he already killed 2 of them like it was nothing and to be honest shalnark didn't had his needles and i never seen koltopi on the offense, so the rest of the troupe aren't going to be that easy

spiders are going to dark continent as well, kurapika is going to be happy

Hold your horses Togashi... I mean I know authors have their time of not doing very well, but this one completely trashed this mini-arc.



Why revive Hisoka? This isn't Dragon Ball. Him coming back to life is completely pointless and contradicts the fight between him and Chrollo. It was just a cheap set up for what is seeming to me his revenge, so much unlike Hisoka. What did the Spiders even do to him lol.



I swear if Togashi kills Feitan off I'm calling bullshit. Way to ruin your entire manga in just a page



edit: if anything, bringing Hisoka back just makes the manga less interesting. Never really liked him

My point of situation :

1 Hisoka totally defeated by Chrollo tattics

2 Hisoka try the jesus trick (by protecting his organs)

3 It worked ,probably because of his great nen skills,he did the same thing done by Pito(STronger nen after death)

4 His nen probably get boosted by the near death status"



I think this is not really an asspull because all he did was a "Nen CPR" thanks to his after death nen status"



my question here is why he didn't kill machi,is she really his sexual partner :D ??!?

To me it seems that Hisoka truly died, but the thing he tried out before he bit the dust was to use his nen and bungee gum to protect his heart and main organs and somehow revived himself by starting it again with his powers that were even stronger after death. Though he wasn't sure how it'd would work.



He admits it was his defeat and I believe he admits that he overestimated his own powers to be able to cope with Chrollo and the nen puppets. Now I feel he is just seeking a rematch with Chrollo and killing the troupes to gain that rematch. He just satisfying his bloodlust.

I think Hisoka still is injured, i'm still unsure if he still needs to be healed in some way and that his bungee gum and texture surprise is just temporary until he is healed. He can't beat Chrollo as it is or the stronger Troupe members until he is healed or i could be wrong. I believe his limbs appear good as new but he still needs it to be healed.

Togashi is a troll with that title XD. Disappointment, disappointing the fans believing that Hisoka (and maybe Chrollo) would die, only for both to survive.



As for the two troupes he killed, Kortopi is the weakest as was implied/stated in the Yorknew City Arc, he is useful to the Troupe because of his specialist ability. We never see him in combat and he is usually protected by the boss or with a protector like Nobunaga for example. So he'd have no chance against Hisoka. As for Shalnark, his physical strength is far below Hisoka without his power, and the shock of holding Kortopi's head caught him off-guard, so I guess he was unlucky. Shalnark with his power would have given Hisoka a better fight, maybe even beating him, we'll never know.



Has anyone noticed how in the yorknew city arc 5 of the troupe were prophesied to die by Kurapika's hands. The hunt for the phantom troupe is on, pathing to the New World (wrong manga).

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SuperRed said:
BigBoss said:
blackjew said:
BigBoss said:
blackjew said:
It seems there are some misunderstandings.



First, it wasn't a vow like Gon's.



It wasn't granted to him; Hisoka did die, but died with a great wish to live. So on the brink of death he prays to his bungee gum to become stronger through death and massage his heart and lungs. He just had that strong wish and gave that command to his nen. But that was just a huge bet if his wish weren't great enough, or he wasn't in a condition to get revived through heart massage he would still be dead.



It's totally conforming with the way nen stronger through death works in the series, that's why he didn't got any drawbacks. He was just smart to use his own nen to revive himself.



Second, he didn't get healed.



He just put a "makeup" to his injuries with his Bungee Gum and Texture Surprise like he always did in the manga. He really never "recreated" a limb before, but remember that his nen got stronger so he has better control of his Bungee Gum now.



That makes it even dumber, fuck nen vows my Bungee Gum can make me stronger without me having any drawbacks..... Really?



Not Bungee Gum but death made his nen stronger because of his wish. It so happens that Bungee Gum can contract and expand so it can work to revive somebody through heart massage.



BigBoss said:
MajinAkuma said:
BigBoss said:




That makes it even dumber, fuck nen vows my Bungee Gum can make me stronger without me having any drawbacks..... Really?

The Chimera Ants had ridiculously powerful Nen without any vows. Hisoka's Nen got stronger after dying. Or do you expect a drawback from Nen from a dead person who is now undead?



Chimera ants are completely different case tho, their whole biology is different then human ones and even with those extremely powerful nen aura they could still be killed and you know.....actually stay dead...... Pitou is probably something like 5 times if not even more stronger than Hisoka and the best she could do is after dying to make the puppet move her corpse, but here we have Hisoka doing gods work.



Pitou's wish was to kill Gon that's why he activated Terpsichora after death.



He could have activated Doctor Blythe and get revived (or actually not because he got his head exploded, so he would just become a puppet) but obviously Gon wouldn't wait for that.



All this "massaging back to life" is all good and all but how is everybody ignoring the time frame in which that was done. Bungee Gum clearly didn't keep massaging it only started it after they moved him to a hotel room which lets be real probably takes time..... and it wasn't only a heart massage but even a lung massage?



Yeah, that's the issue, Hisoka prayed that he would be revived after death...but it didn't exactly happened as he said, more like about half an hour later for some unexplained reason, and conveniently when only one person was with him at the time.



It was probably Bungee Gum being self aware and looking out for his homeboy Hisoka for the right timing because lets' not forget that bungee gum has properties of both rubber and gum and ofc is very surprising.

blackjew said:
It seems there are some misunderstandings.



First, it wasn't a vow like Gon's.



It wasn't granted to him; Hisoka did die, but died with a great wish to live. So on the brink of death he prays to his bungee gum to become stronger through death and massage his heart and lungs. He just had that strong wish and gave that command to his nen. But that was just a huge bet if his wish weren't great enough, or he wasn't in a condition to get revived through heart massage he would still be dead.



It's totally conforming with the way nen stronger through death works in the series, that's why he didn't got any drawbacks. He was just smart to use his own nen to revive himself.



Second, he didn't get healed.



He just put a "makeup" to his injuries with his Bungee Gum and Texture Surprise like he always did in the manga. He really never "recreated" a limb before, but remember that his nen got stronger so he has better control of his Bungee Gum now.



That makes it even dumber, fuck nen vows my Bungee Gum can make me stronger without me having any drawbacks..... Really?