Hunter x Hunter Chapter 354 Discussion
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- #11
strider98 said:
Wow reading hxh is like going through a university exams, you have to re-read the chapters to understand what's going on lol.
Anyway how is it happening(only in hxh you will get this xD):-
Stage 0: Chrollo sets the initial conditions.
Chrollo reveals:
NEW ABILITIES:
Black voice
Summons 2 Antennas and a remote control that can control any person (Other species?). Requires the antenna to be jabbed into the subject.
Gallery Fake:
Creates perfect copies of inanimate objects. Can't recreate nen. Nor can it recreate living beings. Copies of living things result in corpses.
Order Stamp:
Can only control puppets. Corpses qualify as puppets. Copies made using gallery fake also qualify.
Convert Hands:
Needs to be bookmarked for both hands. Right hand gives others user's appearance. Left hand allows user to take on another's appearance. Appearance applies to Clothes as well, as shown by Ch. 354, where when converted hands is released, the subject returns to their original clothes.
Sun and Moon Signs:
Can place signs on anything user touches. One had applies the moon mark and the other, the sun mark. Once both marks touch, an explosion occurs.
Stage 1: Hiding and preparing
Escape in the audience.
Book mark Black voice and throw 2 Black voiced audience members at Hisoka to distract him
Activate Convert hands to disguise himself
Move bookmark to Convert hands
Release Black voice
Hide and wait.
Stage 2: Creating the Puppet Army and Issuing Orders
Steal clothes from a person
Take bookmark off Convert hands. Appearance returns to his own.
Bookmark Gallery Fake. Open book to Order Stamp.
Create fakes and order a portion of them to "break Hisoka".
From here onwards, play hit and run to wear down Hisoka as Hisoka has to deal with the swarm of Puppets
Stage 3: One on One with Hisoka.
Stage 4: Chrollo eyeing to loop Stage 2
Hisoka has basically killed off all puppets that have been ordered to "break" him, with the exception of one in order to keep an eye on if order stamp is still active.
like Hisoka said, Chrollo, who is hiding in the crowd right now, has currently active:
gallery fake on bookmark
order stamp on open page
Chrollo, right now, is supposedly trying to set up for STAGE 2 again and as Hisoka said, can:
give out orders to puppets in reserve
release the stamp to make more copies since it needs two hands, and after that
book mark Gallery Fake and use the open page for:
convert hands to hide again
order stamp to "break Hisoka"
If this is successful, Chrollo has successfully looped STAGE 2.
Stage 5: Hisoka's rushing in to stop Chrollo from looping STAGE 2
Hisoka rushes into the audience and currently assumes that there is only the bookmark on Gallery Fake.
Hisoka uses midranged Bungee Gum + Puppet Head as a way to:
get moderate damage in
keep Chrollo on the move, and not give him time to use Gallery Fake more
keep a distance to be less vulnerable to Black voice
Chrollo currently does not have the same mass of puppets to fully execute STAGE 2 again, so his options are:
hide the book in his jacket and open to Black voice and control people who are not fakes
open to order stamp and order the remaining copies to attack Hisoka
STAGE 6: The truth is revealed
After Hisoka grabs onto Chrollo with Bungee Aura and crushes his body with the head, but it's not Chrollo. It's not a fake either. It's an audience member made to look like Chrollo with Convert hands and controlled with Black voice.
But if two abilities are on at the same time, shouldn't Gallery Fake's puppets have disappeared? Nope. The head, which Hisoka used a weapon didn't dispel even though it's from Gallery Fake. Which means...
SUN & MOON MARKS MAINTAIN GALLERY FAKE PUPPETS EVEN AFTER BOTH ABILITIES ARE NOT ACTIVE.
Now, what this means is that for the entire time from Stage 2 to Stage 4, Chrollo was not forced to maintain Gallery Fake along with Order Stamp. The Gallery fake puppets were already maintained by Sun and Moon marks. So, this is actually what he did in Stage 2.
Book mark Gallery Fake, and make tons of puppet fakes.
Open page to Sun and Moon mark, and mark the made puppets.
Note: With the book open in the right hand, he can only apply the sun mark.
Bookmark order stamp, puppets will be maintained due to having the sun and moon mark.
Order initial wave of puppets with Order stamp to break Hisoka and steal somebody's clothes.
Begin hit and run strategy while puppets occupy Hisoka.
So, after Chrollo jumps back into the crowd in Stage 4 after Hisoka kills all but one of this ordered puppets (and also marked by the sun mark), he creates the fake Chrollo using Convert hands and black voice
Thank god someone here has reading comprehension so the rest of us don't feel dumber than need be, I feel I need 5 hours of studying just to understand 1 page let alone a chapter.
- #14
Anyway how is it happening(only in hxh you will get this xD):-
Stage 0: Chrollo sets the initial conditions.
Chrollo reveals:
NEW ABILITIES:
Black voice
Summons 2 Antennas and a remote control that can control any person (Other species?). Requires the antenna to be jabbed into the subject.
Gallery Fake:
Creates perfect copies of inanimate objects. Can't recreate nen. Nor can it recreate living beings. Copies of living things result in corpses.
Order Stamp:
Can only control puppets. Corpses qualify as puppets. Copies made using gallery fake also qualify.
Convert Hands:
Needs to be bookmarked for both hands. Right hand gives others user's appearance. Left hand allows user to take on another's appearance. Appearance applies to Clothes as well, as shown by Ch. 354, where when converted hands is released, the subject returns to their original clothes.
Sun and Moon Signs:
Can place signs on anything user touches. One had applies the moon mark and the other, the sun mark. Once both marks touch, an explosion occurs.
Stage 1: Hiding and preparing
Escape in the audience.
Book mark Black voice and throw 2 Black voiced audience members at Hisoka to distract him
Activate Convert hands to disguise himself
Move bookmark to Convert hands
Release Black voice
Hide and wait.
Stage 2: Creating the Puppet Army and Issuing Orders
Steal clothes from a person
Take bookmark off Convert hands. Appearance returns to his own.
Bookmark Gallery Fake. Open book to Order Stamp.
Create fakes and order a portion of them to "break Hisoka".
From here onwards, play hit and run to wear down Hisoka as Hisoka has to deal with the swarm of Puppets
Stage 3: One on One with Hisoka.
Stage 4: Chrollo eyeing to loop Stage 2
Hisoka has basically killed off all puppets that have been ordered to "break" him, with the exception of one in order to keep an eye on if order stamp is still active.
like Hisoka said, Chrollo, who is hiding in the crowd right now, has currently active:
gallery fake on bookmark
order stamp on open page
Chrollo, right now, is supposedly trying to set up for STAGE 2 again and as Hisoka said, can:
give out orders to puppets in reserve
release the stamp to make more copies since it needs two hands, and after that
book mark Gallery Fake and use the open page for:
convert hands to hide again
order stamp to "break Hisoka"
If this is successful, Chrollo has successfully looped STAGE 2.
Stage 5: Hisoka's rushing in to stop Chrollo from looping STAGE 2
Hisoka rushes into the audience and currently assumes that there is only the bookmark on Gallery Fake.
Hisoka uses midranged Bungee Gum + Puppet Head as a way to:
get moderate damage in
keep Chrollo on the move, and not give him time to use Gallery Fake more
keep a distance to be less vulnerable to Black voice
Chrollo currently does not have the same mass of puppets to fully execute STAGE 2 again, so his options are:
hide the book in his jacket and open to Black voice and control people who are not fakes
open to order stamp and order the remaining copies to attack Hisoka
STAGE 6: The truth is revealed
After Hisoka grabs onto Chrollo with Bungee Aura and crushes his body with the head, but it's not Chrollo. It's not a fake either. It's an audience member made to look like Chrollo with Convert hands and controlled with Black voice.
But if two abilities are on at the same time, shouldn't Gallery Fake's puppets have disappeared? Nope. The head, which Hisoka used a weapon didn't dispel even though it's from Gallery Fake. Which means...
SUN & MOON MARKS MAINTAIN GALLERY FAKE PUPPETS EVEN AFTER BOTH ABILITIES ARE NOT ACTIVE.
Now, what this means is that for the entire time from Stage 2 to Stage 4, Chrollo was not forced to maintain Gallery Fake along with Order Stamp. The Gallery fake puppets were already maintained by Sun and Moon marks. So, this is actually what he did in Stage 2.
Book mark Gallery Fake, and make tons of puppet fakes.
Open page to Sun and Moon mark, and mark the made puppets.
Note: With the book open in the right hand, he can only apply the sun mark.
Bookmark order stamp, puppets will be maintained due to having the sun and moon mark.
Order initial wave of puppets with Order stamp to break Hisoka and steal somebody's clothes.
Begin hit and run strategy while puppets occupy Hisoka.
So, after Chrollo jumps back into the crowd in Stage 4 after Hisoka kills all but one of this ordered puppets (and also marked by the sun mark), he creates the fake Chrollo using Convert hands and black voice
- #16
Haha the fight everyone wanted to see consists of Hisoka fighting a bunch of puppets and Chrollo running away and putting in some sneaky hits on Hisoka, Togashi delivering as always.
