Hunter x Hunter Chapter 354 Discussion

This fight is so hype

just when you taught Hisoka is at a advantage there, its actually Chrollo who is still has control of the fight

Chrollo is awesome in this chapter!

Not sure how people are fed up with the fight considering Chrollo's abilities/character. This is honestly exactly what was to be expected of this dream fight and it is certainly living up.



I guess because it came from left field is why people aren't that invested in it.

Best Hisoka vs. Chrollo chapter so far.

Hisoka had it under control this chapter, but Chrollo can now use 4 abilities at once.

Gallery fake will stay even if he takes it off the page due to sun and moon,  that leaves him open to using 2 more abilities, which is currently order stamp and convert hands.

How long is the cat-and-mouse game going to last? I wonder when Hisoka is going to lose his patience...

Ok, I am super confused... I gave up trying to understand all the abilities. It seems like all the abilities he is using are abilities to control people and give orders except differ by slight variations, so I have no idea what is actually happening lol. Also why are the audience still running if people are getting decapitated and mutilated left and right lmao. I really want to go back to the actual dark continent story. I do like the idea of Hisoka and Chrollo fighting as they are two of the most bad ass characters in terms of blood lust and ruthlessness, but this fight feels like beating a dead horse with the way they are fighting. I hope this mini-arc ends soon, so we can finally get to see those 5 wonders or whatever they are called in the Dark Continent, and all the new monsters, enemies, and environments; also possible would be new magic or something on the Dark Continent to unlock Nen capabilities even further. I am also excited to see the Chimera Ants fight in the Dark Continent; I am curious to see how they fare as Category B ranked opponents against the Dark Continent's category A threat levels.



I can't really complain though, since Togashi is releasing chapters again. I should be grateful that it is out, but I am worried that it will go on a HiatusXHiatus again once this fight ends leaving us with blue balls for the actual Dark Continent part of the story for another 6 months to a year or even longer.

I like this fight and all but I really can't wait to see Gon and what's happening to him right now since well he isn't himself, exactly.

Kinda wish we could have some Killua side story episodes or something because after this presumedly we go back to dark continent.

strider98 said:
Wow reading hxh is like going through a university exams, you have to re-read the chapters to understand what's going on lol.



Anyway how is it happening(only in hxh you will get this xD):-





Stage 0: Chrollo sets the initial conditions.

Chrollo reveals:

NEW ABILITIES:

Black voice

Summons 2 Antennas and a remote control that can control any person (Other species?). Requires the antenna to be jabbed into the subject.

Gallery Fake:

Creates perfect copies of inanimate objects. Can't recreate nen. Nor can it recreate living beings. Copies of living things result in corpses.

Order Stamp:

Can only control puppets. Corpses qualify as puppets. Copies made using gallery fake also qualify.

Convert Hands:

Needs to be bookmarked for both hands. Right hand gives others user's appearance. Left hand allows user to take on another's appearance. Appearance applies to Clothes as well, as shown by Ch. 354, where when converted hands is released, the subject returns to their original clothes.

Sun and Moon Signs:

Can place signs on anything user touches. One had applies the moon mark and the other, the sun mark. Once both marks touch, an explosion occurs.

Stage 1: Hiding and preparing

Escape in the audience.

Book mark Black voice and throw 2 Black voiced audience members at Hisoka to distract him

Activate Convert hands to disguise himself

Move bookmark to Convert hands

Release Black voice

Hide and wait.

Stage 2: Creating the Puppet Army and Issuing Orders

Steal clothes from a person

Take bookmark off Convert hands. Appearance returns to his own.

Bookmark Gallery Fake. Open book to Order Stamp.

Create fakes and order a portion of them to "break Hisoka".

From here onwards, play hit and run to wear down Hisoka as Hisoka has to deal with the swarm of Puppets

Stage 3: One on One with Hisoka.



Stage 4: Chrollo eyeing to loop Stage 2

Hisoka has basically killed off all puppets that have been ordered to "break" him, with the exception of one in order to keep an eye on if order stamp is still active.

like Hisoka said, Chrollo, who is hiding in the crowd right now, has currently active:

gallery fake on bookmark

order stamp on open page

Chrollo, right now, is supposedly trying to set up for STAGE 2 again and as Hisoka said, can:

give out orders to puppets in reserve

release the stamp to make more copies since it needs two hands, and after that

book mark Gallery Fake and use the open page for:

convert hands to hide again

order stamp to "break Hisoka"

If this is successful, Chrollo has successfully looped STAGE 2.

Stage 5: Hisoka's rushing in to stop Chrollo from looping STAGE 2

Hisoka rushes into the audience and currently assumes that there is only the bookmark on Gallery Fake.

Hisoka uses midranged Bungee Gum + Puppet Head as a way to:

get moderate damage in

keep Chrollo on the move, and not give him time to use Gallery Fake more

keep a distance to be less vulnerable to Black voice

Chrollo currently does not have the same mass of puppets to fully execute STAGE 2 again, so his options are:

hide the book in his jacket and open to Black voice and control people who are not fakes

open to order stamp and order the remaining copies to attack Hisoka



STAGE 6: The truth is revealed

After Hisoka grabs onto Chrollo with Bungee Aura and crushes his body with the head, but it's not Chrollo. It's not a fake either. It's an audience member made to look like Chrollo with Convert hands and controlled with Black voice.

But if two abilities are on at the same time, shouldn't Gallery Fake's puppets have disappeared? Nope. The head, which Hisoka used a weapon didn't dispel even though it's from Gallery Fake. Which means...

SUN & MOON MARKS MAINTAIN GALLERY FAKE PUPPETS EVEN AFTER BOTH ABILITIES ARE NOT ACTIVE.

Now, what this means is that for the entire time from Stage 2 to Stage 4, Chrollo was not forced to maintain Gallery Fake along with Order Stamp. The Gallery fake puppets were already maintained by Sun and Moon marks. So, this is actually what he did in Stage 2.

Book mark Gallery Fake, and make tons of puppet fakes.

Open page to Sun and Moon mark, and mark the made puppets.

Note: With the book open in the right hand, he can only apply the sun mark.

Bookmark order stamp, puppets will be maintained due to having the sun and moon mark.

Order initial wave of puppets with Order stamp to break Hisoka and steal somebody's clothes.

Begin hit and run strategy while puppets occupy Hisoka.

So, after Chrollo jumps back into the crowd in Stage 4 after Hisoka kills all but one of this ordered puppets (and also marked by the sun mark), he creates the fake Chrollo using Convert hands and black voice

Thank god someone here has reading comprehension so the rest of us don't feel dumber than need be, I feel I need 5 hours of studying just to understand 1 page let alone a chapter.

This is confusing but crazy, I think Chrollo is def gonna win, he has everything planned out to the t

Mind games x Mind Games

I'm loving how strategic this fight has been. It's like there are 3 or 4 outcomes for every move they make