Fairy Tail Chapter 498 Discussion

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  • #42
Canaas said:
@geekwoglasses:



I already knew that, I'm just saying it seems odd that he can't go and kill Natsu outright, being probably significantly stronger than him.



I suppose 'devil slayer' could assist in killing Natsu, although it seems like a stretch that Gray would really be more effective than a Spriggan at killing him even with his increased effectiveness against natsu. Surely, multiple spriggans working together would easily dominate Natsu, but for some reason they never do this.



Most likely because when Natsu becomes END (I'm believing its a transformation of some sort), he becomes way more powerful.
 
  • #43
SO...Gray only wounded by DSM....and got Invel's attention...but it will eventually eat his sanity..as expected...



...Brandish?....Okay let's see what she going to do.



And either Gray or Juvia tries to do Suicide to spare other...I say Juvia. ....but after We Gte confirmation of Gruvia or is it Juray? XD
 
  • #46
Rex_Connor said:
Canaas said:
Why doesn't Alvarez use bows and arrows for their soldiers if they get rekt so easily? Most people are weak to blades even among FT. So a rain of arrows would be quite effective if they did not block. Erza for instance obviously could not evade tons of arrows at once if at the same time she seems to not fight at superspeed.



They don't actually have ranged spells even. Might as well not send them there in the first place, as clearly, they are not doing their job right now. No soldiers even bother with trying to launch any attacks on Gray or the people who were frozen by Invel while they remained frozen and unable to evade.



I don't get why Invel doesn't attack Gray while his Ice Lock is active. Or better, Juvia, since she is made of water and would die instantly if he froze her and shattered his own ice.



Gray being able to injure Invel with an attack that didn't even look like a 'Devil Slayer' attack(no visible darkness at all so it looks like any generic 'summon my ice blade and magically swing it with more force even though I don't enhance strength') was pretty BS imo, as the spriggan 12 are supposed to be far beyond FT but at this point, pretty much 0 of them live up to their hype. The snowstorm was alright, but i had expected some kind of actual attack to go along with the snowstorm after seeing it. Like a swirling blizzard of icicles around Invel or something along those lines to impale Gray 100 times along with decreasing his movement speed so he can't escape. Ice Lock is pretty lame as an 'ice' attack since it is not much of an ice magic. At the same time, this is a huge opening for Invel to do whatever he wants to them while they fight, as they have basically been mind controlled.



Since he's already frozen and shattered Gray's magic, logically he should be able to just freeze and shatter Juvia if he touches her, allowing an instant kill attack. Although even then Nakama power would ressurect Juvia unfortunately because Hiro.



And what happened to the other Spriggans? Are they just standing by and watching? August could easily intervene and kill Juvia or Gray with a surprise attack. Even a lame laser attack like he used to 'kill' Mirajane would be sufficient launched from very long range at Gray. Or simply a lethal thunderbolt attack from clouds above, as he can manipulate any element. Since August is supposed to be vastly superior to any individual FT mage, he would have to be at least 5x stronger than Gray, making a magic attack fast enough to speed blitz Gray's reaction time would be easy enough with that level of difference.



Are you daft? Invel has made it clear that he wants Gray to join him, hence he wants Gray to kill Juvia so he can be merged in darkness.



Ice Zeroth sword by Gray where he uses the sword as a lancer, and whip was fucking epic. What fight were you watching?Eh, still seems kind of stupid that he needs Gray to join him. Natsu is still a lot weaker than Spriggans, and he does not have special immortality like Mavis or Zeref, making him killable by them alone. Invel could even mind control Natsu and have him kill himself. At the moment the plot is pretty contrived. Natsu already lost the power to kill Zeref anyways, so he is no special threat. If they're worried he might become one again, then the Spriggans as a group should focus on teaming up and overwhelming natsu to quickly kill him. Once he's dead, the only concern is picking off the remaining FT members and making sure Fairy Heart is successfully stolen.

The longsword attack looked like just a charging swing attack+some sort of ice construct hitting Invel to me.   



@Geekwoglasses:Yes, I know it was a devil slayer attack. But it didn't look all that different from a simple ice attack at all.
 
  • #47
metsujin said:
Aiyen said:
So Mashima adds a new element to Dragon Slayers out of nowhere. Wonder if it was planned or inspired by a recent video game he just played (which would explain the late release).



And here comes Plot Device Brandish randomly coming in to set up obvious Gray X Juvia moment.



What are you talking about the new element dragon slayer?



Chapter was nice, but we all know nobody will get hurt in the end, UNLESS he kills her as he did with Musica's love interest in Rave, but I highly doubt it will happen, and if it does, people will rage and act stupid and go on his twitter etc... So the chapter was nice, but next weak is BS time or the weak after that, you know if he kills her she will be brought back somehow.



IKR? Fairy Tail is in the shit cause of these dumbasses who go and rage in his twitter when Hiro FINALLy does something nice to his manga.



Juvia will survive by BS or friendship, not even debatable.



Also, Musica's love interest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Juvia (the thirsty mofo)
 
  • #48
Seems like a pretty good chapter



Des Gray was badass as usual, and Invel was also impressive.



Some Gruvia angst coming in, but we know neither char is going to die since Mash wanted a happy ending.



Brandish hot as fuck





Geekwoglasses said:
Aiyen said:
So Mashima adds a new element to Dragon Slayers out of nowhere. Wonder if it was planned or inspired by a recent video game he just played (which would explain the late release).



And here comes Plot Device Brandish randomly coming in to set up obvious Gray X Juvia moment.



A new element to dragon slayers? What are you talking about o_O



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  • #49
ixarising said:
Hermit_28 said:
ixarising said:
I'm impressed with how Mashima can hype and kill the hype in the same chapter. Seriously who here actually believes Juvia or Gray will die.



Well I want Juvia to die for the sake of the manga but I will be sad though if it happens cause Juvia's my second favorite female character in this manga next to Mira



Mashima won't kill her off. He already screwed up twice. First in Gajeel, second in Mira. No one is gonna believe him now. And with a title like Gray and Juvia, you expect Juvia to die? More like nakama power at the best here.



Well even they survive the ice lock by Invel, it seems that Juvia will still most likely to die. Remember in Avatar arc she had a disease and according to the theory i've watched just theory that disease came from when she fights Keyes of Tartaros.



And this arc is getting so screwed already I want some sad moments for the sake of the series tho
 
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