Fairy Tail Chapter 491 Discussion
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- #51
frostmourn said:
LMAO, I didn't like that either; would've preferred him dead as one of the most epic villains in the series (many of the events had him pulling the strings in the background). But it was acceptable to me because he at least stayed dead for 2 arcs LOL and it was said that he directed the entire power of Etherion to the sky hence saving himself from getting disintegrated (but yeah, he should've stayed dead).
I did say that I wouldn't have minded Gajeel coming back at the end of the arc. Because now, what was the point of his death anyway?
Anyways , what do you interpret from that page (just curious)? I interpret that even if gajeel wasn't taken to the underworld he still would've "eventually" died like meruem and royal guards from HxH
Edit: if that statement wasn't there, I would've accepted that comeback as legit
Sigh, I think you´ve misunderstood what happened here because of the term "magic barrier particles". In that panel he says "magic barrier particles" a term that we´ve seen for the first time. In every other panel since the Tartaros arc they always spoke about Anti Magic particles. Rarely the term Ethernano or antiethernano was used, but at this point I´m not sure if it´s the same.
I don´t know if you´re familiar with the science fiction behind teleportation.
With that I mean "beam us up Scotty". According to the theory behind teleportation a body has to get disintegrated first (turned from mass into energy) on a atomic level then travel in the form of energy from one point in the universe to another and then reconstructed as mass again.
Meaning that Bradman turned first himself into a lump of energy (magic particles) in order to fight them without being feasibly damageable. Gajeel beat him in his Dragon Force mode (or whatever it is). Which lead to Bradman touching him while he was dissolving, therefore sharing his condition with him as a final attempt to drag him to death with him. Gajeel would have died through teleportation by leaving out the step of reconstructing him. But because Irene intervened she reconstructed his body by mistake.
Gajeels condition has nothing to do with the poisoning through "Anti magic barrier particles", therefore it´s incomperable with Meruem who died due too radiation poisoning. It´ll probably turn out that he build up an immunity and while it´s poisonous to others to him it´s doping, because they include iron and iron is his elemental food.
Your explanation actually makes perfect sense here, I'm a physicist by passion Lol.
I highly doubt Hiro thought this though, but yeah it makes sense
- #52
Oh Wow! A countdown! A new fckin countdown! Just how great is that? Meh as if anything significant happen the last time Mashima did countdown.
- #53
So....Gajeel was not competently dead but was in moving between real life and underworld....So in other Words...Eileen just activated her Magic on right time...and He got Seriously LUCKY....Well...Acceptable reason...I am OK with that. Not that Much of Bullshit reason...even if I think People will Disagree vehemently....
Lol...and after that confession...Gajeel is embarrassed! XD
and that also activated the Zera Memory...and Summoned her back from Underworld huh... I DON'T F***ING CARE IF PEOPLE SAY THAT IS REAL ZERA!!!! I SAY THIS IS HER SOUL THAT LIVES INSIDE THE ILLUSION MAVIS MADE!!!! THIS IS REAL ZERA AND THAT IS END OF THAT!!!!!
and Complete Massacre of the Fiore Royal Guard....I and Everybody else Knew that These Guys did not seriously stand a Chance... Respect for them tough, for doing their Duty Admirably and for not running. and Meeting between Eileen and Erza...In next chapter...Caesar Mark, CAESAR MARK!!!
....and Looks like what ever happened with Erza and her caused her to spit on Parents-Childs love in what she did to Hisui is any confirmation. King is real parent tough.
Well Zera has some MAgic huh....Telepathy...
on top of being taken to the underworld, it was said that Gajeel's body became disintegrated by magic barriers.
Just reminding you that this made ZERO sense.
Moreover, why is Bradman not back? I know, no one cares to bother........
- #54
Cejara said:
I honestly wouldn't have minded it if this didn't happen all the time. Everything as of lately is due to unbelievable convenience. Its to the point where there is no more suspension of disbelief on things such as Gajeel's anymore when they come back to life because I know something will conveniently take place and all will be well in a chapter or 3.
It´s a staple within writing. The arriving reinforcements have always to reach their destination when the Main character is in perril and about to get killed.
Replaceable or irrelevant characters don´t enjoy this luxury, this includes villains and side characters.
Every Shounen without exception uses this formula.
Can the story be continued without the character?
Y: Character can be killed off. N: He must live.
Ofc it´s always subjective to judge which character is irreplaceable for the stories conclusion and which is not. But you can assist that judgement. Through sources outside the medium, like comments the author has made about his story, or by extending earlier writing conventions the author exploited.
Aka don´t expect a comedy to turn into a drama and vice versa.
A good example of "free writing" would be the Song of Ice and Fire and the Warcraft Universe. Because neither of them have defined main characters the stories can take any direction they want. As opposed to Tolkien whose stories always require the Main cast to fullfill their purpose first before they may die, whose formula 99% of modern literature and media follow. I could go on how it can be retraced to antiquity, whose works were the inspiration for yesterdays authors, but people should know by now.
I mean i understand that and all but Mashima seems to be using that awfully alot lately where it negatively impacts the story. Its not just about the character deaths, but the convenient 1 hit ko's on enemies or asspulls that have been happening recently. It just seems he needs to lay off the clutch a bit on that writing device because it is showing how much the fans of FT are getting fed up with it. I know FT is a story that isn't supposed to be grim and all, but for example Gajeel he could have not killed him off and it would of made it a whole lot better because he was brought back in 2 chapters anyways. Things like that seem pointless and is polarizing the FT readers.
- #56
frostmourn said:
Actually Gajeel did get a LOT of development.
1. Laxus arc
2. Tenrou arc
3. Tartarus arc
4. Alvarez arc (now)
Erza had development only in tower of heaven (and possibly a little amount in GMG vs kagura)
Well, what´s a little and what´s alot, you can argue that whenever Erza had a confrontation with Jellal there was development.
I don´t deny that Gajeel is more developed than some MC´s but it´s not that much either. He went from being a bad boy to being a good boy and he fell in love. I also think that the whole storyline with the old lady during Tartaros was kinda asspulled because imo his original reason for joining was sufficient. Makarov saw potential in the boy. Of course it was tied together through the old council lady making the claim towards Makarov, but it was something the story could have dealt without. Nonetheless he´s a well written character for FT standards. He has chapters like 488. but he also has chapters like 443 and we know barely anything about his past. He´s a potential candidate for having an awesome backstory, but I don´t see who could tell it at this point.
Little and lot relates to the impact that I felt and made in the story. Lol, guess it's just personal.
At least the old lady had an impact later on in the story, Gajeel joined the council. It didn't feel like an asspull to me, gajeel being the dumbass he is most probably got arrested multiple times and it's only believable that at least someone there tried to correct him, contrary to the mommy scarlet who outta nowhere came saying she's comparable to August.
Forgot to add Erza letting Jellal get captured at the end of OS arc, but that's about all I think for Erza.
And Erza isn't even the least developed of the MC (looking at Natsu, wendy and Lucy-Aquarius was BS, she left her to die multiple times and tried to kill her multiple times, her being close to Lucy was forced AF)
Edit: actually Erza is very developed TBH, just that doesn't change her from being the one dimensional character she is during ALL fights
- #57
I mean i understand that and all but Mashima seems to be using that awfully alot lately where it negatively impacts the story. Its not just about the character deaths, but the convenient 1 hit ko's on enemies or asspulls that have been happening recently. It just seems he needs to lay off the clutch a bit on that writing device because it is showing how much the fans of FT are getting fed up with it. I know FT is a story that isn't supposed to be grim and all, but for example Gajeel he could have not killed him off and it would of made it a whole lot better because he was brought back in 2 chapters anyways. Things like that seem pointless and is polarizing the FT readers.
You must be either new to Fairy Tail or just way more tolerant towards the bullshit. The bullshit started happening from Tenrou Island onwards and reached it´s pinnacle during the Daimatou Enbou, from there on on he holds back occasionally, but the oneshots and the asspulls didn´t become any worse.