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Fairy Tail Chapter 491 Discussion
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Yeah, Zeref's backstory was the last time even I gave 5/5 (lol that was probably an year back)
Just asking, but don't you feel that Eileen was forced? (I mean her introduction out of nowhere to match August who was introduced to be the strongest 50 chapters back)
To me it seemed like Hiro did that just to make Erza relevant again and glorify the scarlet family.
Erza should really sit down; got her own spriggan, had most of the time with the 2nd one (Jellal just had 5 panels off fight 😠) and now is foreshadowed to fight the 3rd more powerful one? Considering the BS that always comes outta her it's really sad and bad
Only because the pacing was bad doesn´t mean that the story revolving around the character has to be bad. I do think that Erza´s fights have become terrible since the end of the GMG, but that doesn´t mean that I think the character isn´t interesting.
For comparision sake, I think Natsu is the most boring character of the main cast and Lucy is way better written. Yes her fanservice went from funny to obnoxious, her personality is annoying whenever she is in a fight and it never feels earned when she gets a win because it´s heavily inconsistent, but I don´t think that her personality or her life is boring. We´ve seen Lucy be more than just an object we´ve seen her cry, suffer, laugh, think, the list goes on. All of ths could only happen because we saw her developing as a character. On the other hand Natsus personality for 80% of the time was fight, don´t hurt my friends, it´s fun to play pranks and go on adventures, the end.Wendy is pretty similar. Look cute, be unconfident, get told to be confident, rinse repeat.
Every other MC did have to go through a struggle with their demons of the past, some of them were faced in the present others in flashbacks, this includes Erza. It took Natsu untill the Tartaros arc to get some of that development. He had a little through flashbacks, but trust me that´s way less pronounced and effective in the manga than in the Anime.
To answer your question, I think it wasn´t forced to introduce her. I think it was somewhat forced to declare her second strongest, when Brandish explains in the same panel, that August is stronger than her. It was some bullshit wording to give her more credit as a woman, when in actuality all Hiro did was declare her 3rd ranking among the power scaling.
Zeref>August>Irene.
As a character though I think she´s a blank slate and yes she could become another Sheria, who was only introduced to give Wendy a playmate and pedophile bait,but there is the slim chance that Hiro planned for this introduction as he did with several storylines setup in part one.
To give you a proper analogy of my thoughts on FT. It´s a bunch of shounen gold wrapped around lodads shit. After you´ve collected all the gold at the top of the pile, you tink that the gold was just masquerade to trick people into collecting shit, but all of sudden you find a goldbar within the piles of shit and you keep seeking for more and you keep finding silver and sometimes another goldbar, which kinda justifies the searching in shit. Imo that´s how FT is written.
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The chapter was decent... Irene's spell while it look creepy, I liked the way Mashima drew that eye. also why did she make that face after she transformed the princess into a mouse? Hinting at something? It was quite random, and of course the king will love her, she's her daugther... anyway... seems like those 2 twins will target Mira, hope Mira goes all out and wreck them up for good, I know some wanted her to fight that spriggan, but it seems that's unlikely now. Well next chapter it will either be about Mira and Lisanna, Yukino and Sorano or those two twins from Irene's squad.
Mashima´s Art is topnotch like always, I found a few errors on the palace panel, but those are minor nitpicks for a weekly series it´s splendind.
The next title can mean anything. Sorano and Yukino are far fetched, but what it could mean is that the last chapters refered to several characters. Mashima loves his wordplays. Meaning Mother and child does refer to Mavis but also to Irene in this chapter.
A theory I just came up with: Red Hair is seen as an abonimation in parts of the World of FT. For some reason the place in Ishgar Irene grew up considered her a demon or whatever because of her scarlet hair. She falls in love with the one guy whose nice to her. The people who hate her kill him and try to kill her and her baby Erza. Irene receives the scar on her belly through a fight not thorugh childbirth. Erza is found by a foster family who take her in, they live Rosemarie village where she gets the name Erza by the parents who adopted her, but because they´re farmers they don´t bother with last names, which is why Erza didn´t have one till she met Jellal.
Next chapter is refering to Lisanna and Mira who´ll fight the two underlings of Irene, but could also refer to Yukino and Sorano hinting at the double meaning of both chapters, maybe the underlings are sisters too who knows.
So that Hiro Mashima can pretend that he´s a genius for missleading everyone into thinking Erza and Irene are sisters, but in actuality he did foreshadow this plottwist, since Tower of Heaven.
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Erz4_Sc4let said:
Darklight0303 said:
Erz4_Sc4let said:
This chapter was awesome.
I think that the next chapter has something to do with Yukino and Sorano. Sense they are sisters and the next chpter's name is "Elder sister and younger sister". It can be right?
We can only hope. That's one reunion that is long overdue. I fear it might more likely mean Lisanna and Mira given she's bein targeted and that is nothing but a recipe for disappointment since Lisanna is involved.
I don't really think it's about Lisanna and Mira, because their reunion was a long time ago, like you know. But Yukino and Sorano don't see each other for a very, very long time (more than 10 years, I think), so it would be only natural if it was their reunion. That's my opinion in the matter, but if you have a different one I will respect it.
Oh I think you misunderstood. I agree with your hope that it's about Yukino and Sorano. I just FEAR that it might relate to Mira and LIsanna given Mira is being the target of a deadly game.
LMAO
You are soooo true.
The last time Mira had a proper fight was her only fight (against Freed).
Against Azuma - loss.
Against Sayla - sitri form (her strongest) got one shotted.
GMG - total joke
Now she's stuck fighting lackeys when Erza got her own spriggan, most of the time against 2nd one; and now related (forced AF) and foreshadowed to fight the 3rd one.
Can't believe these two used to be rivals (well Erza's rivals always get shitted, look at Bacchus)
- #23
Irene has a wide variety of magic at her disposal and can't wait until she will inevitably battle Erza. Regardless of their relation, it's gonna happen no matter what and that alone is what I'm excited about.
Everyone is making haste to the guild to save Mavis, even though they have no idea where that is. Most likely the dragon slayers would be able to find it due to their ability of smell.
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Erz4_Sc4let said:
Darklight0303 said:
Erz4_Sc4let said:
This chapter was awesome.
I think that the next chapter has something to do with Yukino and Sorano. Sense they are sisters and the next chpter's name is "Elder sister and younger sister". It can be right?
We can only hope. That's one reunion that is long overdue. I fear it might more likely mean Lisanna and Mira given she's bein targeted and that is nothing but a recipe for disappointment since Lisanna is involved.
I don't really think it's about Lisanna and Mira, because their reunion was a long time ago, like you know. But Yukino and Sorano don't see each other for a very, very long time (more than 10 years, I think), so it would be only natural if it was their reunion. That's my opinion in the matter, but if you have a different one I will respect it.
Oh I think you misunderstood. I agree with your hope that it's about Yukino and Sorano. I just FEAR that it might relate to Mira and LIsanna given Mira is being the target of a deadly game.
Now I get what you said. Thanks for "opening my eyes".
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blfan said:
Looks like we have another countdown here with these chapter titles, first we have Mother and Child, and now Elder Sister and Younger Sister, this could be a countdown to Natsu and Zeref confrontation and maybe the reveal of their relationship.
Yay'!
Someone has noticed! (edit: well, looks like more people has noticed while I was writing XD)
But Zeref already revealed his relationship to Natsu.
(may be you meant revealed to other members of the guild, if so I apologize :P)
That is what I meant, the rest of the guild especially Lucy and Mavis learning about that.