Fairy Tail Chapter 490 Discussion

  • #34
Trentor11 said:
frostmourn said:
Darklight0303 said:
frostmourn said:
Jarjaxle said:
PSxTWO said:
MirajaneDreyar said:
You guys do realise that Gajeel is still in the underworld, right? And Zera is still kinda dead. So they're actually meeting in the underworld and Zera will possibly help Gajeel to return to the living realm.

Yes I did thought of that. Others think that he's already alive because he showed up



Hmm...then I am OK with this if this is going to be confirmed in next chapter.



frostmourn said:
Fai said:
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH



And here people were CONVINCED Gajeel would stay dead.

And here people were convinced that Milf Erza would actually do something of consequence.

And here people were CONVINCED that Zera was dead. And now we have a literal asspull of her appearing her for no reason on top of Gajeel randomly being alive.



Hooo boy I can't believe how trashy this got.

I expected nothing and I was still disappointed.



End this already, Mashima. FT is beyond saving now.  Just get on with writing a new manga, which hopefully will be on level of Rave or at least FT Tartaros.



Aiko_Hiroshi said:
I was honestly about to rage at Gajeel being completely fine....then I saw....Zera. Okay Mashima, you have me extremely interested in what the hell is about to happen.



Fairy Heart is Zera and MAvis nakama power that formed in them having been friends for three seconds! :^)



Lol, of course mashima won't end this soon. Gotta milk money outta it right??



No matter how shitty it gets, there will always be millions of shipper girls and 14 year old thirsty kids who would still read this for pairings and fanservice, and claim it's the best manga of all time.



For eg, just see myanimelist ratings, more than 75% people put 5/5 or 4/5 no matter how shitty a chapter gets.



I would still read this to it ends, but this is faaar from my fav manga that it used to be.



Quick question...Why the **** are you reading this if you hate this and think it as trash? seriously? I want honest answer not trying to bash or anything (>_<)



My reasons for reading this:



1.) I have faith that Hiro can do better. After GMG, he did a much better arc Tartarus (not as great as people say it is, but was definitively good IMO)



2.) Fairy tail is my first anime (apart from Dbz, naruto and Pokemon which I watched when I was 10), it was the anime that got me into the world of manga and anime 5 years back, when I was 15. And no matter what others say, the first 120 episodes were epic IMO (actually enjoyed them for the most part, except for Natsu and Lucy lol), and the first 50 episodes were the best in any shounen by far(my opinion, don't bash)



3.) Because of reason 2, I have a personal attachment to fairy tail. I might seem as a hater, but what I actually want is for this manga to get better cause I legit care for it instead of accepting it as how it is, cause it's worse than GMG now TBH.







My problems with fairy tail now:



1.) Villains treated like utter shit. Hyped up to fail horrendously - Bradman killed by 3 regular punches after 25+ chapters of hype, are you kidding me? Actually all Spriggans except Serena (and then died -_-) and August were disappointing.



2.) Wasting God Serena and other GOI. They were hyped for more than 150 chapters and then had an off screen fight. At least it made Serena look epic, but wait, then he got one shotted to a character that needs no more hype.



3.) Characters who kept me to the series and were my favs were shitted on - Erza (used to be the best,she became......), Laxus, Jellal, lissana. I mean they really got their characters destroyed. Right now I only like Gray and Gajeel (not anymore if he's back) in the protagonist side.



4.) Plot holes on chapter 465. People say it's awesome cause of revelations and Zeref appearing. But it made the one good arc of fairy tail pointless, made Atlas flames look like a complete idiot and shitted on all the emotions showed by Mard Do you seriously think he was lying? The guy showed legit emotions for END as if he was a close friend, got angry when someone talked shit about END, almost cried in the end cause he failed to resurrect END and was ready to risk his life to resurrect him. And now you say they were lies? BS. To me is seemed as if mashima really planned on END being all that, then chickened out later.





I swear this is the worst arc of the manga. I would still read fairy tail, but I hate hiro for making an arc like this with the highest potential a shit.. I know he can do better, but he doesn't want to. He shits on his own manga and disrespects the sanity of his readers



Lisanna had her character destroyed? How? she has been consistently useless and hostage fodder every step of the way.



She was an amazing background character before she got revived. Natsu's and her past was sad IMO, gave development to Natsu and was basically a ghost of his past- girl he loved but failed to protect.



All that changed after she came back.



Any "normal" mind would have rekindled their relationship after that, but no, after lissana have a huge hug to Natsu, they never even talked or met. She got terribly sidelined and Natsu treats her like fucking Vijeeter.



I know Hiro wants Nalu, but Nalu makes zero sense with lissana around. He should never have bought her back in the first place.



Now she's just a canon fodder, sidelined and useless 😠



Shame on Hiro for doing that😠



"She was an amazing background character" lol no she wasn't. She was a plot device for Natsu's character. Your first part of your comment is pretty much her being a link to Natsu's past meaning it's all about him and her being a catalyst which is what she was. A plot device with no character



And what's this about her past? We know next to nothing about Lisanna's character. Everything about her is tied to Natsu. And quit with the "Natsu loved her" crap. They were friends nothing more. If there was a crush it was completely one sided. There's nothing to compare when it comes to Natsu and Lucy. They have the better chemistry and development as they should because it was planned.



There was never a Natsu and Lisanna. Lisanna herself never had a character arc so calling her an "amazing background character" is



1) False

2) hilarious



Her creation was to die to give development to Natsu and the Strauss siblings. Hell look at Yukino and how friendly she and Mirajane are. She also strikes a close resemblance to Lisanna. Goes to show if Lisanna wasn't alive the concept of Mira being closer to Yukino as a sister figure would strike true.



Lisanna is in the background because she wasn't supposed to be alive in the first place



I haven't read the manga till first 120 episodes, saw them on TV.



Isterio told that there were no such development in manga, so if you're a manga reader I understand your point.



In the anime, there were about 3 episodes dedicated to Natsu and lissana, the anime gave her a really likeable charterer and build upon their relationship to an extend that I felt sad about her death and sad for Natsu.



If you saw the anime only for the first lot of episodes (till at least edolas) and say she was never good, then I just disagree.



Many people who went over to manga from the anime has felt that lissana has been utterly shitted on and destroyed by the author. Now she's just fodder that holds back her siblings in fights.
 
  • #35
Irene's magic has changed everyone's location and brought the togeather to end the war quickly and Acnologia has been moved further away so he can't interfere with Zeref's plans. I'm pleased that she didn't beat Acnologia or even on his level or everything up until now would have been meaningless as he is meant to be even more powerful than Zeref.



Gajeel being back shouldn't surprise anyone. Mashima just can't help himself.
 
  • #36
I feel nothing.



I generally felt nothing when Gajeel came back.



I didn't feel sad, I didn't feel angry... Nothing.
 
  • #37
frostmourn said:
TheUltimateOne said:
Jarjaxle said:
PSxTWO said:
MirajaneDreyar said:
You guys do realise that Gajeel is still in the underworld, right? And Zera is still kinda dead. So they're actually meeting in the underworld and Zera will possibly help Gajeel to return to the living realm.

Yes I did thought of that. Others think that he's already alive because he showed up



Hmm...then I am OK with this if this is going to be confirmed in next chapter.



frostmourn said:
Fai said:
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH



And here people were CONVINCED Gajeel would stay dead.

And here people were convinced that Milf Erza would actually do something of consequence.

And here people were CONVINCED that Zera was dead. And now we have a literal asspull of her appearing her for no reason on top of Gajeel randomly being alive.



Hooo boy I can't believe how trashy this got.

I expected nothing and I was still disappointed.



End this already, Mashima. FT is beyond saving now.  Just get on with writing a new manga, which hopefully will be on level of Rave or at least FT Tartaros.



Aiko_Hiroshi said:
I was honestly about to rage at Gajeel being completely fine....then I saw....Zera. Okay Mashima, you have me extremely interested in what the hell is about to happen.



Fairy Heart is Zera and MAvis nakama power that formed in them having been friends for three seconds! :^)



Lol, of course mashima won't end this soon. Gotta milk money outta it right??



No matter how shitty it gets, there will always be millions of shipper girls and 14 year old thirsty kids who would still read this for pairings and fanservice, and claim it's the best manga of all time.



For eg, just see myanimelist ratings, more than 75% people put 5/5 or 4/5 no matter how shitty a chapter gets.



I would still read this to it ends, but this is faaar from my fav manga that it used to be.



Quick question...Why the **** are you reading this if you hate this and think it as trash? seriously? I want honest answer not trying to bash or anything (>_<)



I think he just wants to read this manga to the end considering it was his first anime/manga and he was a fan of FT. (taken from his previous posts)



Ty for that mate, glad that you understand.frostmourn said:
Jarjaxle said:
PSxTWO said:
MirajaneDreyar said:
You guys do realise that Gajeel is still in the underworld, right? And Zera is still kinda dead. So they're actually meeting in the underworld and Zera will possibly help Gajeel to return to the living realm.

Yes I did thought of that. Others think that he's already alive because he showed up



Hmm...then I am OK with this if this is going to be confirmed in next chapter.



frostmourn said:
Fai said:
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH



And here people were CONVINCED Gajeel would stay dead.

And here people were convinced that Milf Erza would actually do something of consequence.

And here people were CONVINCED that Zera was dead. And now we have a literal asspull of her appearing her for no reason on top of Gajeel randomly being alive.



Hooo boy I can't believe how trashy this got.

I expected nothing and I was still disappointed.



End this already, Mashima. FT is beyond saving now.  Just get on with writing a new manga, which hopefully will be on level of Rave or at least FT Tartaros.



Aiko_Hiroshi said:
I was honestly about to rage at Gajeel being completely fine....then I saw....Zera. Okay Mashima, you have me extremely interested in what the hell is about to happen.



Fairy Heart is Zera and MAvis nakama power that formed in them having been friends for three seconds! :^)



Lol, of course mashima won't end this soon. Gotta milk money outta it right??



No matter how shitty it gets, there will always be millions of shipper girls and 14 year old thirsty kids who would still read this for pairings and fanservice, and claim it's the best manga of all time.



For eg, just see myanimelist ratings, more than 75% people put 5/5 or 4/5 no matter how shitty a chapter gets.



I would still read this to it ends, but this is faaar from my fav manga that it used to be.



Quick question...Why the **** are you reading this if you hate this and think it as trash? seriously? I want honest answer not trying to bash or anything (>_<)



My reasons for reading this:



1.) I have faith that Hiro can do better. After GMG, he did a much better arc Tartarus (not as great as people say it is, but was definitively good IMO)



2.) Fairy tail is my first anime (apart from Dbz, naruto and Pokemon which I watched when I was 10), it was the anime that got me into the world of manga and anime 5 years back, when I was 15. And no matter what others say, the first 120 episodes were epic IMO (actually enjoyed them for the most part, except for Natsu and Lucy lol), and the first 50 episodes were the best in any shounen by far(my opinion, don't bash)



3.) Because of reason 2, I have a personal attachment to fairy tail. I might seem as a hater, but what I actually want is for this manga to get better cause I legit care for it instead of accepting it as how it is, cause it's worse than GMG now TBH.







My problems with fairy tail now:



1.) Villains treated like utter shit. Hyped up to fail horrendously - Bradman killed by 3 regular punches after 25+ chapters of hype, are you kidding me? Actually all Spriggans except Serena (and then died -_-) and August were disappointing.



2.) Wasting God Serena and other GOI. They were hyped for more than 150 chapters and then had an off screen fight. At least it made Serena look epic, but wait, then he got one shotted to a character that needs no more hype.



3.) Characters who kept me to the series and were my favs were shitted on - Erza (used to be the best,she became......), Laxus, Jellal, lissana. I mean they really got their characters destroyed. Right now I only like Gray and Gajeel (not anymore if he's back) in the protagonist side.



4.) Plot holes on chapter 465. People say it's awesome cause of revelations and Zeref appearing. But it made the one good arc of fairy tail pointless, made Atlas flames look like a complete idiot and shitted on all the emotions showed by Mard Do you seriously think he was lying? The guy showed legit emotions for END as if he was a close friend, got angry when someone talked shit about END, almost cried in the end cause he failed to resurrect END and was ready to risk his life to resurrect him. And now you say they were lies? BS. To me is seemed as if mashima really planned on END being all that, then chickened out later.





I swear this is the worst arc of the manga. I would still read fairy tail, but I hate hiro for making an arc like this with the highest potential a shit.. I know he can do better, but he doesn't want to. He shits on his own manga and disrespects the sanity of his readers



Hmm. OK then...Have to agree that Villains in this Arc, exceptions being August, Eileen and Zeref, do not live up their name...on that I have t say I am disappointed. and another note is that have to say that FT hype for e is also not that big in this war arc. Searching FT member so Guild get's back together was better.



Well I understand your reasons quite well...not the best arc honestly, but not worst in my opinion
 
  • #38
Osther said:
Did u noticed.....ZERA, ZEREF = TWINS (and UR??)

Zeraf, Natsu= bros, => Zera Natsu = brother and sister,

Zera= origin, Natsu = E.N.D.



Zeref and Gray would be twins.



http://img07.deviantart.net/0d30/i/2015/121/0/3/fairy_tail_432__braiya_in_love__by_abhizz-d8rqp21.jpg
 
  • #39
Basicly ... Gajeel is alive and with, Zera, who is alive/ as a spirit?. Mavis is up and kickin and spawned next to Zeref. Natsu pulled an accidental ecchi grope on lucy. (yay)  shit I need to wrap my head around what just happened. Give me a sec

So Mother and child next time?? wonder what thats about o.o maybe i can take a guess
 
  • #40
Osther said:
Did u noticed.....ZERA, ZEREF = TWINS (and UR??)

Zeraf, Natsu= bros, => Zera Natsu = brother and sister,

Zera= origin, Natsu = E.N.D.



Maybe Zera was the real END since her magic is also about fire. Then maybe she is the Flame Demon that Silver was talking about. And just like Igneel she lived in Natsu's heart and finally get out after Mavis was released in Fairy Heart or because Natsu absorbs a very strong magic from August's attack
 
  • #41
gajeel's return are predictable, but zera, wtf is this shit got real as hell?
 
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