Fairy Tail Chapter 490 Discussion

did you notice the snake in the panel??? i think it's a foreshadowing..... dunno...

Isterio said:
frostmourn said:


Yep, that's one of my points I tried to make when I mentioned Mard, thanks for properly presenting it :)



One of the main morals of the series is feels and love.



But Hiro respects these aspects only for Natsu, Lucy and Erza. What happened to the feelings of:

Future Rouge (lost everything he cared for, became ready to sacrifice anything to stop Acnologia).

Won´t argue with you here, that´s some thin ice there, if you like him as a villain feel free. I don´t remember him well enough.

frostmourn said:


Mard Geer (the guy legit didn't want anything to do with humans, just wanted to revive his friend/mentor and kill Zeref; went against fairy tail cause they blocked his ways), then his emotions for shitted on this arc (465) ; simultaneously making entire Tartarus arc pointless.



To be fair, Hiro pointed out several times how the demons don´t feel. How they´re empty because theý´ve been created out of ether (nothingness) and that their curses are not fueled through positive emotions like love but through malice.

He didn´t leave any room for interpretation, although it´s contradictory how most of them have been shown to display several different emotions through their facial expressions. Despair and fear just to name two.





frostmourn said:


Lissana, got her partner stolen by someone  who came to his life just 1 month back, while she alone supported and have encouragement to Natsu for years till they were 16 when every other member of the guild mocked and belittled him; and even developed mutual runabouts romantic feelings with each other. Natsu didn't even have feelings for Lucy, the entire thing appears forced AF now.

Kyouka's and Sayla's loyalty to Zeref and each other. Erza won because she's erza and her feelings were stronger? BS, kyouka's feelings were definitely stronger there.



I 100% agree that the whole handling of this plotline is horseshit, nonetheless I wanna point out that their relationship wasn´t described as romantic in the Manga, more like a childhood crush. The Anime consistently kept adding content to this plotline, that blew it out of proportion.

Neither was Natsu treated badly within the guild, that´s Anime bullshit too.

I´ve also gotta point out that the whole rumor about Lisanna being brought back, because of the director of the Anime, is just a rumor, developed by fanshippers.

Fact is, Hiro Mashima brought Lisanna back at his own request.

I´m inclined to think that he watched/read Naruto one day and thought.Yes I´ve gotta add that love trangle into my series too.

frostmourn said:


There are multiple other instances where the morals for his series are contradicted cause they don't matter to sidecharacters (Jacob saving Brandish and Marin, cobra getting cheap shotted by Erza for Kinana etc)



Naruto follows similar morals too, but the difference is kishi tries to respect other character's morals too: pain's feels, madara's feels, obito's feels (LOL) etc



I don´wanna open that can of worms so I´ll make it short.

That´s because everyone who prefers good storytelling over cute girls doing sexy things in tight revealing clothes considers Naruto the better Manga.



I've not read manga till 120 episodes. But I loved the flashbacks of Natsu and lissana in the anime, showing Natsu in a different light than a dumbass. The anime made me really like lissana and made me really sad to see her getting shitted on now.



I don't remember the manga saying that demons don't have emotions. But Mard himself stated that he has emotions and he tries his best to keep them checked. Mard,Kyoka and Sayla showed a lot a emotions (+ve emotions) as well. So did the rest of the demons.

Edit:Mard was shown to care about demons, he made hell's core to help them with their injuries and held core runs on his power, he lends tempesta his energy to heal himself etc. Sayla looked like a demon version of Mira, she definitely cared about demons. Kyoka cared at least about Sayla

Should've expected to see gajeel come back god dammit

Really interesting chapter. But the last page... I'm confused. That's it. Just plain old confused.

Pretty good chapter in my opinion... Eileen's magic is powerful indeed, wonder what will she do in the king's castle. Gajeel's return doesn't surprise me, like everbody else,but I do am curious of what does Zera have to tell him.



Now let's wait for the next chapter.

Gonna go out on a whim and say that Zera is Zeref and Mavis's daughter.



I mean, look at that last page, the resemblance is uncanny.

TheGrandSage23 said:
Except it's Zera.. Who gives a damn

mavis

how old was zera when she died i didnt read zero i should proably watch the anime

i know the beginning is basicly les mis



anyway Gray,wendy and juvia all have boss fights coming up sperated and the land shrunk to increase encounter rates.



Happy is ok, is mest dead and no one cares, fairy tail, you cant pick and choose nakamama like that its all or nothing

Jarjaxle said:
PSxTWO said:
MirajaneDreyar said:
You guys do realise that Gajeel is still in the underworld, right? And Zera is still kinda dead. So they're actually meeting in the underworld and Zera will possibly help Gajeel to return to the living realm.

Yes I did thought of that. Others think that he's already alive because he showed up



Hmm...then I am OK with this if this is going to be confirmed in next chapter.



frostmourn said:
Fai said:
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH



And here people were CONVINCED Gajeel would stay dead.

And here people were convinced that Milf Erza would actually do something of consequence.

And here people were CONVINCED that Zera was dead. And now we have a literal asspull of her appearing her for no reason on top of Gajeel randomly being alive.



Hooo boy I can't believe how trashy this got.

I expected nothing and I was still disappointed.



End this already, Mashima. FT is beyond saving now.  Just get on with writing a new manga, which hopefully will be on level of Rave or at least FT Tartaros.



Aiko_Hiroshi said:
I was honestly about to rage at Gajeel being completely fine....then I saw....Zera. Okay Mashima, you have me extremely interested in what the hell is about to happen.



Fairy Heart is Zera and MAvis nakama power that formed in them having been friends for three seconds! :^)



Lol, of course mashima won't end this soon. Gotta milk money outta it right??



No matter how shitty it gets, there will always be millions of shipper girls and 14 year old thirsty kids who would still read this for pairings and fanservice, and claim it's the best manga of all time.



For eg, just see myanimelist ratings, more than 75% people put 5/5 or 4/5 no matter how shitty a chapter gets.



I would still read this to it ends, but this is faaar from my fav manga that it used to be.



Quick question...Why the **** are you reading this if you hate this and think it as trash? seriously? I want honest answer not trying to bash or anything (>_<)



I think he just wants to read this manga to the end considering it was his first anime/manga and he was a fan of FT. (taken from his previous posts)