Fairy Tail Chapter 463 Discussion

This was a good chapter. I feel like the fight between Natsu and Zeref is too soon, especially because it's it's supposed to be very climactic and they still have 11 spriggans and tons of foot soldiers to beat up.

But even with you taking it at face value, it's an oxymoron. The sentence literally does not make sense without adding in the appropriate subject before the second verb. If you took the time to actually understand what they're saying, you wouldn't act as immature as you've recently been showing.

trump54 said:
yaokitsme said:
"He was being worried for Natsu yet it is not what gray fanbois in this thread took from that scene. "Omg Gray was being reasonable and thought Natsu was stupid!"



Gray Fans are almost as bad as Slaine fans were in Aldnoah forums



You know what is upsetting? Gray not getting ANY consequences for a free power up and getting whitewashed for leaving Juvia without explanations to the point of her getting sick. That is what is upsetting."



yes you are right all gray fans know nothing except that he is the best developed character in the series and if you disagree you are wrong. gray meeting his dad after years thinking he was dead only to find out he was a zombie and died before his eyes clearly had no consequences (sarcasm) but natsu offscreen gaining a "1 shot zeref" skill is totally acceptable (laughable)



on topic: assuming this isnt the end id like this encounter to finally explain natsus age etc like during the laxus arc he couldnt get through freed's barrier



??? Why should gray suffer consequences ? It was given to him by his father, who would not do anything to harm him. And when de noticed something wrong he saw a doctor ab out it instead of hiding it. Its like you wish he did something stupid JSUT so. He would be punished for the sake of it. Natsu runs away and leaves everyone its okay, gray does it and its wrong?



It was given to him by his father, yes. But of course it's not his father aim to bring harm to his son. The power though was sudden, and technically Gray's father was not human when he developed this power. The Ice Devil Slayer magic is unique so far in the manga, and it was difficult to see Gray developing this magic by himself with no side-effects. As for Gray leaving Juvia alone without a word, I do not believe that it is him that people should just blame. Fault lies with Erza logically. As for Natsu, he went away, leaving behind Lucy and the guild, though he left a letter for Lucy.



It was the way Gray just left Juvia without a word, is what annoyed some people.

Raijin-sama619 said:
That escalated quickly.

The arc or the thread

Waiting for Acnologia to interrupt this brotherly reunion.....

Lucy-is-onemagic said:
I just reread the Gray and Natsu vs. Mard Geer. What if inside the bandage is a dragonification thingy?



It's not unlikely. After all the poster art for the next Fairy Tail movie does show Natsu with distinct draconic features on his body.

TheGrandSage23 said:
Good chapter(7/10) but god Erza annoys me now and Mavis is being punked by Zeref.



This time this has nothing to do with being a me being a Gray fanboy or not. So don't try to use that angle. Gray was right to second guess. Erza has Natsu's(second favorite character after Post TS Lucy) manhood firmly inside her and it's been that way for too long. Trying make Gray seem like he's in the wrong with her "high and mighty our faith is all that matters bs" then Mavis just comes along and agrees.. No mention of Natsu being too gung ho. And you wonder how Zeref is punking Mavis so easily? This was one of the problems FT had(fixed it after the GMG arc for the most part) that "faith and friendship" was all that mattered to win and not power or skill.



The reason why this situation is better handled is because we know that Natsu is one of the strongest characters in the FT verse and that his power has grown immensely. He was specifically created to end Zeref's life however the thing is that we(the audience) know this not the characters. If Gray knew what Natsu was he wouldn't second guess but instead have faith in Natsu for logical reasons. Instead of having blind faith like Erza or Mavis for no reason whatsoever



I might believe what you say if Gray had not explicitly mentioned the Book of END. You know the same thing he was so gung ho about destroying EVEN THOUGH THE FREAKING HUNDRED IF NOT THOUSAND YEAR DRAGON SAID NOT TO!

Darklight0303 said:
Except the Dragon who fought END said NOT to destroy the book. Given he wanted to defeat the demon in the past and now told Natsu to CAPTURE the book instead of burning it outright, something which would be much easier for Natsu to do given his schtick IS fire after all, proves there's a deeper motive behind it. Much deeper than the RAWR revenge bullshit Gray was on at the time.

You forgot to mention the part where after failing to defeat the demon, he adopted and raised the demon as his son.  For all we know destroying the book could kill Natsu.  Or it could do nothing.  Igneel died before he could explain why destroying the book is bad, remember so all we really know is that he wanted Natsu to steal it, not destroy it, without opening it.



Darklight0303 said:
If he didn't blame END, he'd focus MORE on the creator of END. Instead he's still going on and on about how he's going to be the one to take END down.

It's his dad's dying wish.  Of course he's gonna think about it.  They had already talked about beating Zeref at the guild and he mentioned E.N.D. in private with Juvia.  It's not like he hijacked Mavis' story to talk about E.N.D.



Darklight0303 said:
It is different since Natsu is END. The one Zeref Created with the express purpose to kill him. Natsu unlocking that ability during the one year timeskip is a billion times more believable than a magic concocted on nothing but hearsay.



Somehow I knew you'd say that.  Now here's a fun little exercise: Get a pencil and piece of paper and write down everyone in-universe that knows that Natsu is E.N.D.  It's easy to forget that as viewers we naturally get to know more than the characters within the story.