Fairy Tail Chapter 463 Discussion
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ziggy_Z said:
Lucy-is-onemagic said:
I just reread the Gray and Natsu vs. Mard Geer. What if inside the bandage is a dragonification thingy?I'm not doubting it, but that's just fucking stupid. The dragons finally came out of their children because they stopped the dragonification; that's the very reason Igneel didn't come out back on Tenrou, because he didn't create enough antibodies.
But, if it really is that, well... sasuga Hiro.
Igneel mentions that there's ALMOST no chance they will turn into dragons.
Was about to say the same thing. It was not GUARANTEED by any means
- #68
Zerienga said:
My god Rex_Connor. You're being a complete idiot right at the moment. I never knew that bashing a character should be responded with bashing a different character. Or is that the only way you can respond to arguments? Lovely 6 posts in a row, though. You, CookingPriest and darklight and everyone else hating on characters are being complete idiots. Gray has his faults. Natsume has his faults. Gajeel has his faults. Hell, even Gildarts, with what little we'be seen of him, has his faults! You accomplish absolutely nothing by bashing a chatacter to make another look better. And same with me, metsujin. I don't give a damn about the "'tards war'". I appreciate all characters and how they all fit into the story rather than choosing a favorite.
Good post. Fixed. Can't forget resident unlovely trolltard CookingPriest.
I'm well aware that my post won't be universally accepted by many especially Natsu fans, but it is what it is.
also, it's Natsu not Natsume.
but I'm disappointed in the logical poster theusis3 who repeteadly questioned how DeS Gray didn't get any "side effects" from using his new magic.. but clearly he does have side effects, I mean he had curse and dark marks that were corroding his mind to a point he had to go to Porlyusica to get cured. Not to mention, he IS STILL STICKING TO HIS OWN ELEMENT OF ICE WHICH IS BEING NEGLECTED SO LOGICALLY HE SHOULDN'T HAVE SIDE EFFECTS. Gray was transferred magic to him. It's like saying Natsu should have side effects from eating Atlas's Flames way back in the GMG
Not to mention how he doesn't question how Cana was able to use FG with no side effects freely despite using a different element together
What side effects did Gajeel get from being conveniently to eat shadows THAT DIFFERS FROM HIS ELEMENT OF IRON. He's able to use two elements without any explanation.what did he lose in order to gain it again?
but no he can't question that or Natsu's BS LFD mode lel.
It's pathetic and hypocritical to be honest.
Gray's only powerup in the series is extremely reasonable and unlike Natsu, he doesn't get them plattered on a plate daily.
Most importantly this whole shit is Off-Topic created by the two pathetic haters because they couldn't handle the fact that Gray is getting praise for using his brain in this chapter alone so they diverted the topic somewhere else.
Gray acted very smart, reasonable, and was thinking with his brain, along with worrying about Natsu. He's not blind like Erza who doesn't even know how powerful Zeref is.
Hope Zeref makes Natsu suffer.
I can't remember if i did mention this in a post hundreds of chapters ago when it was the GMG arc, I was bitterly disappointed with it. It all starts with that second origin bs, that they obtained in one day, i swear that was Mashima trolling us with the reverse hyperbolic time chamber, so used that to fix a problem. But I accepted it, as for Natsu's Lightning Fire dragon mode, it seemed a bit reasonable that he used to suffer from eating Laxus lightning magic, but i feel that on account of his 2nd Origin awakening he was able to use it, though lightning and fire are similar in elements. Gajeel power-up, I feel is similar to that of Gray, as it was necessary to keep Gajeel relevant to Natsu in power, though Mashima still has a lot of enigma concerning dragonslayer magic, in terms of what it can or can't do.
I only used e.g. Grays Fanboy, as an example, since i was too focused on Darklight. Though e.g. just signifies one example from many, it's different from me using i.e.
As for Gray's power-up, i'm just saying that i'd like him to have at least a short-side story to overcome any problems he had with adapting to Ice Demon Slayer magic. It's just the demon part that irks me a bit.
Again Erza's character has been developed in a way that irks me too, though it is consistent.
Natsu left a letter for Lucy before he left Fairy Tail. And also as I stated when Gray left Juvia without a word, he is not to blame. The blame falls on Erza as she is the only one that can comfort Juvia when Gray is on his mission.
And I apologise for not being clear. I thought I implied that both Natsu and Gray weren't being reasonable with each other, because they were both sticking to their promises to their respective fathers. And I believe in is a human thing to do, i don't condemn them for being true to their feelings.
I don't condemn Gray's or Gajeel's power-ups, as it is necessary, as they are rivals of Natsu, and Natsu's potential is higher than both Gray's and Gajeel's because of his story and past. I just wanted a better explanation, i'm still waiting for Mashima to explain dragon slaying magic more, since there are still unanswered questions. Mashima seemed to explain how Natsu got a dual dragonslayer magic, but not anything about Gajeel's dual magic. Oh and if I hadn't made it clear here, the GMG was bitterly disappointing to me, and I do wish that I don't have to mention it or remember it again, as I go back to chapters to find reference to pages in that arc. There are so many things sad/bad/wrong in that arc according to my expectations and opinion.
Though if there was a character who is simply a monster. It's actually Laxus, Mashima kind of wrote him in a way that his body is near indestructible, and that he has huge potential and power that can be improved by just training and not power-ups. But then again this opinion is slightly biased.
If there is anything i missed, or have been unclear. please point it out. I can share my opinions and try to clearly present my views. Thank you for your help and understanding. I apologise for missing points out, sometimes I'm too focused on another opinion that I just close upon it to counter-claim it. Thank you again. I appreciate your comments and reply to my points.
Sorry I missed out Cana earlier. However what is wrong with Cana using FG? Please expand, i could be under the wrong expression? I believe that any Fairy Tail member is able to use it if they have a huge potential for magic or high magical power, since FG is similar to FL. However Cana has only been able to use it twice, because Mavis allowed her to borrow the power twice. I don't believe she is constantly able to use it, or am I wrong?
And true, this has been off-topic for a while. But I disagree with some of you. I believe that all the characters reactions are reasonable to an extent. As I said, Natsu's actions are reasonable if he believes in that one-time power he has to defeat the boss in an attempt to end the war. Gray's reaction is reasonable in his consideration of Natsu. Erza's reaction is built on her relationship with Natsu and the guild members but also her character. Mavis' reaction seems reasonable and calculated, she doesn't totally agree with Natsu or Erza, she hesitated, but decides that the best course of action is to believe in Natsu as she is forced to and to continue with the plan. This war at the moment is heavily against Fairy Tail and Ishgar, as they are heavily outnumbered. Natsu has decided to conserve his strength and to fight at full strength against the boss, because the reality is that by the time Zeref arrives from the west, almost all of the mages in Ishgar would have been exhausted and their magic whittled down. Again we don't know each characters full capabilities yet nor do they know each other full capabilities. They only know their own capabilities and the author Mashima knows their full capabilities.
I'd be disappointed if Natsu gets beaten without the story making a significant advance even if he is defeated.
Also does anyone think they have better plans that Mashima or the characters in Fairy Tail so far in this arc? I'd like to hear ideas. Also looking forward to how Mashima writes the next chapters.
- #72
I just reread the Gray and Natsu vs. Mard Geer. What if inside the bandage is a dragonification thingy?I'm not doubting it, but that's just fucking stupid. The dragons finally came out of their children because they stopped the dragonification; that's the very reason Igneel didn't come out back on Tenrou, because he didn't create enough antibodies.
But, if it really is that, well... sasuga Hiro.
- #73
This time this has nothing to do with being a me being a Gray fanboy or not. So don't try to use that angle. Gray was right to second guess. Erza has Natsu's(second favorite character after Post TS Lucy) manhood firmly inside her and it's been that way for too long. Trying make Gray seem like he's in the wrong with her "high and mighty our faith is all that matters bs" then Mavis just comes along and agrees.. No mention of Natsu being too gung ho. And you wonder how Zeref is punking Mavis so easily? This was one of the problems FT had(fixed it after the GMG arc for the most part) that "faith and friendship" was all that mattered to win and not power or skill.
The reason why this situation is better handled is because we know that Natsu is one of the strongest characters in the FT verse and that his power has grown immensely. He was specifically created to end Zeref's life however the thing is that we(the audience) know this not the characters. If Gray knew what Natsu was he wouldn't second guess but instead have faith in Natsu for logical reasons. Instead of having blind faith like Erza or Mavis for no reason whatsoever