Fairy Tail Chapter 441 Discussion

metsujin said:
Silver4000 said:
I didn't want Elfman on the B team but oh well, also, why were the Strauss sisters so sloppy designed on this chapter :/



Darklight0303 said:
G_Spark233 said:
Of course they would get into a fight lol



They'd be out of character if they didn't intervene to protect the kid tho

Wouldn't happen if there wasn't a kid to begin with.

I wasn't expecting a fight/war before the B team was assembled (to give time for a little exploration of the "new" continent.



As someone mentioned above, that kid might be the child of the spy, the one who'll give information to the members. Or a random kid, but is it wrong to help someone?

NOPE!! Especially if you are Powerful Member of Fairy Tail! X3

Darklight0303 said:
Actually if you stop and think about it Natsu is the only one who sorta stuck to the unknown identity routine of an infiltration.. See everyone else is kicking the guards with their faces exposed while most of Natsu's face is covered by the scarf.



Except that is a one of a kind scarf and he always has it and he always wears the exact same clothes, actually I never got how idiots fall for masks especially superman all he does is take off his glasses. These people still have the same body builds and etc all u can't see is the face, but yeah I get what you mean at least he tried to cover his fac, not be seen, and be a ninja.

KingAce261 said:
ahsinam33 said:
KingAce261 said:
trump54 said:
ahsinam33 said:
KingAce261 said:
] Also Erza is and knows she is at this point not even the top 3 anymore, ever since natsu and gajeel got dual elements they surpassed her and Gray too when he got ice devil slayer magic. Laxus is still a badass poweerhouse and always will be same goes for Girldarts on the other hand Erza is Mira equal so no she did not have to go no matter how dangerous

What on earth are you basing this on? Natsu might be stronger but there's no definitive way of determining that. And what makes you think Laxus is better than Erza? I'm not trying to pick a fight but come on, everything you said isn't exactly based on facts, it's simply based on how much you like certain characters and how much you dislike others.



Yeah this is clearly biased. Ezra is essential superman she will always be a storing as she needs to be no explanations. That means stronger then you. She is still top tier, and defiantly ahead of gajeel, since when are his shadows comparable to Lauxus lightning.

U guys are calling me biased look in the mirror. You literal just said Erza is so powerful she gets random powerups, tell me where this was when she fought Jellal, hades, etc. The only character that gets power ups to be as strong as needed to beat the boss is Natsu. Get it through your heads Erza is not a god stop fawning over her. All I said was that Laxus and Gildarts were always stronger than her and Natsu, Gray, and Gajeel got stronger than her when they got dual element and ice devil slayer magic. Ezra is the same level of power as Mira is just gets more times to showcase cuz she is main. If you are calling me baised then look up its dictionary or demotion meaning and then look at my posts again.



*not this is magic power/magic strength not share scariness

Hey, hey. Don't get mad at me too, I never said Erza was a god. To tell the truth, Erza's fight with Kyoka annoyed me too.

But as far as her fight with Jellal is concerned, she was unable to fight properly against him because of her feelings for him. Though she wouldn't have been able to defeat Jellal even if she tried; Jellal is a lot stronger than her and even Natsu. You said it yourself, Natsu gets powerups. If he hadn't eaten Etherion there's no way he would have been able to defeat Jellal. Same goes for the fight with Hades. If it weren't for Laxus' help, Natsu wouldn't have been able to win. And why does Natsu get all the powerups necessary to win? Because he's the main character.

Though with Natsu being E.N.D. I know he's going to end up stronger than everyone else eventually; I won't deny that.

But there's one thing about Erza. She's a really good fighter but she doesn't really use magic that much. Her armours require magic but she usually wins by virtue of her skill, not due to sheer power, so I'll give you that.

Yeah I be what you mean if there was no magic power Erza and Mira would definetly be one of the tops waaaay better than almost everyone, except I still think Laxus and Gildarts would be badass and probably crime bosses and Gramps would probably still be their leader.

Good thing we finally came to an agreement.

Though there's one more thing I want to say.

KingAce261 said:


What I'm hopping is that mest erases the guys memories and they get gramps then leave then when they come back they find that becuase Erza left without telling erveyrone to be in high alert or stay herself. Lumen historic is stolen and everyone nit in team tenrou is injured badly, while the rest recover team tenrou with maybe some help from other guilds and or magic council go to Alvarez to get revenge and lumen historic back. They can go in gorrilla style but I'm hoping they go in military style and that Mavis helps with tactics again

While I admit this could be a nice development, what I don't understand is why everyone is complaining about Erza leaving the guild unguarded. I mean, Fairy Tail was brought back a few days ago. Their guild was left unguarded for the entire past year. Makarov didn't leave anyone to guard the place now did he? If Lumen Histoire could have been stolen it would have been stolen by now. I don't know what exactly the system is but I suppose getting to Lumen isn't exactly so easy.

Of course they would just jump in to protect the kid, disregarding whatsoever the fact that they would then have to fight a LOT of people.

The return of Natsu nin nin! *o*

Isterio said:
metsujin said:


Getting a little personal there, but no Lisanna isn't better than Lucy, since she was brought back, and did nothing, literally Lisanna did nothing, she's just there, the whole Strauss siblings is nice and whatnot, but she's still a useless character.



To each his own, I bet there is an equal amount of Nalu as Nali shippers out there.

Preferences  probably mostly boils down to character designs.



I actually despise the whole trolling the Anime provides for the pairings just to get the fans to rage or fangasm when they get thrown a bone, which Hiro never did much of. Lissana is a severly underdeveloped character for what she was promised and I think it´s a failed attempt of Hiro trying to copy Kishimoto´s pairing trolling with Hinata and Sakura which is unrivaled imo.



Also the Anime did it way worse than the manga which caused the whole outrage at the end.In General Anime staff tends to overtease the pairings alhough the source material just mildy hints at it. Even in One Piece which has literally 0 pairing material besides Ussop maybe, they invent lines to hint towards the pairings Oda has neglected officially in an interview.



As of currently Lissana serves no purpose besides being a fanservice character whomay become a possible love interest in the future, but for some people Lucy is just an annoying character. Pre timeskip (Tenru Island) Lucy was horrible imo, post timeskip is ok.She had alot of character development way more than Natsu, which although her fights are eiher boring or annoying gives her some soul. Lissana has shown nothing even for a side character she´s underused.



But some people just like her for being the underdog in the love triangle. That´s her whole purpose currenly that and being a fanservice character. The relationshio between the siblings is nothing to write home about, it´s fanservice territory since it´s just another layer of closer family in the already big family of Fairy Tail.

Yeah the animators made some NaLi scenes, in the old anime, but in the manga Natsu has a closer relationship with Lucy, if there's going to be a love between the two (Natsu and Lucy), I don't know.



No Mashima didn't try to imitate to whole love triangle stuff, if he did he would've made Lisanna more relevant, which he didn't, Natsu himself goes on more missions with Happy and Lucy than her, if Mashima wanted to make some love drama, he would've do it. Not sure, but read somewhere, that Lisanna was brought back just because the editor liked her, that's pretty much it.



Again with Lucy, maybe you personally don't like her (assuming ofc), and that's fine, but she's very "realistic", she's not as strong as Erza, but she still tries her best in her fights, even she admits it several times when they go on missions and stuff (example Oracion Seis, Grande Magic Games), that Juvia or Gajeel would be a better choice than her, she knows she's not strong, but she still tries her best.

Nice chapter!



But I cant get rid of the feeling that, if they use Lumen Histoire, that Mavis will dissapear forever.

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