Fairy Tail Chapter 434 Discussion

  • #178
Once again we see how Natsu has become. The death of Igneel has inspired him that no one is going to die ever again, well good luck with Natsu.



This does show how stronger Natsu is, it took almost the whole team to take down Lullaby, but Natsu is going to defeat Ikusatsunagi all by himself. Shows how much he has grown, but sucks for the rest of the time, we get it Natsu is stronger, though I wish at least Lucy did contribute here, I don't think she hardly did anything in the Lullaby fight, so I rather see Lucy just give an assist, which would show her growth.



Natsu the spotlight hog strikes again, but that is too be expected, and where is the council, Gajeel is going to do nothing it seems.



Anyway these two chapters went by fast, and yup this is Lullaby 2.0, but giving this is kind of a reboot with the time skip I am cool with that, thought we don't have any of the Avatar members turning good and helping out like we did in the Lullaby arc.
 
  • #179
trump54 said:
Lucy's preganant?

Simon's Alive

I cant think of anything else shocking



How long until wendy gets sky/light dragon slaying formor she posion sky anyway she probably won't get her dual element either never cuz he is not a fighter or not until Gajeel goes dragonforce
 
  • #180
does nobody understand that all these 1 shot enemies are a prelude to something bigger? obviously they will fight better people otherwise the whole thing would be over. while this chapter probably showed the peak of natsus strength hopefully now he will step aside and we can see everyone elses powers and maybe theyll finally run into gajeel/levy etc
 
  • #181
metsujin said:
SenorPink said:
KingAce261 said:
SenorPink said:
Horrible chapter.Power levels of Friendship are bullshit.

Natsu being completely out of his league in a year without any special training is bullshit.

Natsu performing a feat that is one here same level or higher than Gildarts is bullshit.

Natsu literally have up in fear of said feat barely a year ago.I guess Luffy can become stronger than Rayleigh after one day of training and a year off panel.

Erza being afraid of this monster hypes it up.The size is just as impressive as Gildarts and Natsu one shots it without his forms.

There is no good justification for his chapter.

Natsu pulled a Red Hawk unnecessarily.Igneel was already dead.Natsu rarely failed ever which nullifies his Kalamazoo speech almost entirely.He has to actually lose first.We rarely got to know Igneel so why would we be sad.Rather, we should disappointed for his lack of ha rafter shown to us and he bullshit arc people hype up known as Tratourus.

This is an argument from someone who enjoyed Fairy Tail until Tenrou Island.Heaven's Towrr despite having a good amount of BS hits on anything with quality IMO.

Edit:Mobile messes up my rammer so sorry if you can't read somethings

U clearly know nothing about this chapter 1. It was a mini arc 2. That so called God never even used magic it just punched the ground, trust me anyone there that was part of FT could haved owned it. 3. Why does he have to lose first to say speech and get all passionate? Dude he was saying that speech FOR avatar because their guild master tried to kill them. 4. I posted why he could have got stronger and dude the final battle is comming up and if he could not own that fake God do u think he would be able to beat/kill zeref and aconolgia?

1.Why the fuck do I care if it was a mini arc?!Everything about it was pointless and BS.

2.I never made the point that it was god.I made the point that Erza got wet when it smashed the ground meaning that it would've wrecked.The God's feat is on par with Gildarts.

3.Why would he make a speech for Avatar to do this punch.Fodder?Seriously?It's very obvious he was making the speech more about Igneel which everyone knows is already dead in tartorous arc.

4.Reasons have nothing to do with anything here.Power scaling consistencies.Do you think he COULDVE GOTTEN THIS STRONG IN A YEAR!? I think not

How do you think Luffy is supposed to beat Black Beard or Akainu.How is Ichigo supposed to beat Juha Bach when he's absorbed God?

You talk as though Fairy Tail is about to end instantly and won't be able to train soon.This BS Natsu pulled could've been far far less worse if He used a actual form like DF or some shit rather than fucking base form.

SMFH.



Okay first why are you bringing One Piece in this? And I'm being honest here, look two different series, different universes and such. If you compare them (which I don't like doing with any series), Zoro sliced a dragon with his sword, meaning that Zoro would be on par with current Natsu, because post time skip Natsu couldn't do shit to dragons. So yeah, there's that power scaling. Regarding the "God". That thing couldn't even talk, it was a beast, that's no "God", plus it didn't use any kind of magic or whatever shit REAL gods are supposed to do. It was huge and split the ground a little, because IT'S HUGE, also that's Lullaby 2.0 Look Natsu being so powerful it has something do to with END or whatever his hiding under those bandages (also those might be a form of respect towards Gildarts, because he has bandages on his right arm too). For Natsu at that moment, when he saw Igneel getting rekt by Acnologia, he did NOT knew about the dragons and all of that stuff with them dying. Plus that also serves as a reminder that Acnologia is still a fucking beast, back at Tenrou he rekt them. And he could do it anytime, so he must be stopped, something like this should have happened, to give a purpose to the main character to train. Like in other shounen. That thing killed my dad, and it would probably kill my friends too, so I gotta get stronger to protect them. Sorry if I misspelled something :)It's fair to say that Igneel's death had meaning to us,but the overall powerscaling and training is purely bad writing.It's honestly an annoying turn off because this whole arc is jsut here for the sake of being here.They had Mashima write in  unnecessary timeskip to make Natsu extraordinarilyu overpowered,abusing shounen timeskips.Without any use of transformations, natsu is overpowered enough to destroy a monster on a level on that of gildarts when just a year ago, he couldnt do that.On the level that made erza get legitimately scared.I didnt realyl care if this was a god or not, but people make a big deal that it was called a god, because it showed feats that far surpassed any feat Gildarts has shown  and almsot on par with the dragons.
 
  • #182
KingAce261 said:
sweet5 said:
Pros:

1. - Natsu and the rest of the team have developed strength wise. (And it was pretty cool imo)

2. Natsu remembering igneel probably the first time during this time skip was very sweet.



Cons: The villains were VERY disappointing. ( Seriously though hiro, don't waste time building them up if they were going to get one-shotted in the end. I mean u had the guy summon A FREAKIN GOD and made natsu defeat him like it was nothing. Plus the avatar members and their powers sucked balls.)



Well at least this arc is ending. Hopefully the fights in the future are going to have legitimate fighting instad of just another demonstration on how powerful natsu is now. Trust me Hiro, Natsu ONE-SHOTTING a GOD was a clear picture of his strength. Just want to find all these fairy tail members already so we can get to the good stuff.



Like...

-Is gray really going to kill frosch?

-E.N.D'S appearance

-Zeref

-Acnologia

-where the heck is Makarov?!



Crossing my fingers that the announcement has something to do with a new movie.

Well I agree with you like 70%. Your cons don't make since cuz u can basically think of this as the first episode of a new series where they show off the characters power. Avatar did ot suck dick Natsu and them were just super strong that was what hiro was trying to show. And before u say they did remember that even the magic council was worried about them. I like your likes and agree that I wanna get to the part where FT is back and questions answered, but come on this was a good arc it showed how beast Natsu and the others got and it was not just avatar and the God remeber Blue Note who it took Gildarts to beat, This time Natsu beat him with one attack, I mean u have to admit this was a good arc for displaying how strong everyone got and if u are still mad deal with it cuz Natsu had to become overpowered of he is to stand a chance in the final battle with Zeref and Acnologia.



Not that I'm trying to totally disagree with you here, but I'm just going to address some points into what you just said:



"Your cons don't make since cuz u can basically think of this as the first episode of a new series where they show off the characters power."



1- First of all, I already stated in my pros that I liked that this arc demonstrated the teams' developed strength. Infact, I thought almost everybody looked BADASS at some point.



" Avatar did ot suck dick Natsu and them were just super strong that was what hiro was trying to show"



2- Are you kidding me?! The avatar villains were terrible!



-one caused stomach aches

-one could only clone themselves

-one got goats to lick people's feet

-the puppeteer guy...See, I already forgot what happen to him!



Jerome and the master were okay, but that's besides the point. These people were supposed to be a part of a new era, as said by the arlock guy (refer back to 424) but they were taken down in one-punch. *_*. The GOD almost didn't even get to do a single thing! And we won't ever know how powerful it was now because it was defeated within a span of 5 pages.



" but come on this was a good arc it showed how beast Natsu and the others got and it was not just avatar and the God remeber Blue Note who it took Gildarts to beat, This time Natsu beat him with one attack, I mean u have to admit this was a good arc for displaying how strong everyone got and if u are still mad deal with it cuz Natsu had to become overpowered of he is to stand a chance in the final battle with Zeref and Acnologia."



3- I never said this was a bad arc. I just mean it could've been better. And yes like you said, Natsu one-shotting Bluenote was a good demonstation of his power. But all that means is that there really was no need for mashima to make Natsu do a one-shot finale twice if we were already clarified that fact. (I won't lie though. He did look epic in both of those attacks)



Overall the arc was just a bunch of pointless build-up that lead to disappointment. Yes, the fairy tail team are all powerful now, but if that can't be illustrated in a legitimate fight then that just makes everything confusing and makes people like me worried about how fights are going to go in the future.
 
  • #184
Shawki22 said:
Ok so what exactly is the point of having God slayers or demon slayers if dragon slayers can take out the three entities in their universe?



The God slayers have not lived up to their reputation in any way shape or form.  It would have been much better to see our come in and summon black lighting from the sky and take the thing out or chelia coming in pulling something. I even would have enjoyed gajeel coming in from behind swinging that giant sword he used on the island.



Nope none of that happens instead we get natsu giving us yet another speech and destroying the thing in two hits further displaying that he's too op. If he's taking out God's demons and dragon zeref better be bad as hell otherwise this entire series have been a waste of my time.



well they still cant beat dragons yet if I remember Mavis made a note of this
 
  • #185
metsujin said:
Darklight0303 said:
metsujin said:
Exterria said:
Peole crying cuz Natsu destroyed one of the Gods

I will remind all of you that Natsu is END the strongest Demon that zeref created and even Igneel couldn't defeat him and Acnologia fears him! And Zeref thinks that END (Natsu) is the only one that can defeat him! So stop bitching about it! Yes Natsu is END, but the way it was executed is bad.



Don't think so. For example the God Minerva used was only there for a split second when she nuked teh area in the GMG and then poofed away.

True, if you put it that way, the more you sacrifice the powerful the "god" is??? It's a bit confusing. But if you explain it to someone "Hey this guy KO-ed a GOD" okay.... See it's weird, kinda I personally would've liked if he used DF or you know, show what's he's hiding behind those bandages...



Natsu in DF now will probably annihilate everything. Maybe him going in Dragon force will also unlock or mix the demon powers. Who knows
 
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