Fairy Tail Chapter 324 Discussion

JkImpulse said:
OP has had stupid concepts and out of the blue power ups?



FT is a battle shonen, therefore you are allowed to analyze its fights and rate it based upon them.



Ok, now analyzing things that Mash has done wrong with FT. It's a shonen about magic, yet his ideas for magic seem to be very limited and specialized. Which makes me wonder who the hell is teaching all of these people these very over powered and specific magics.



He has had to pull from the field of "lost" and "ancient" and "overpowered" magic.



Has a simple fire wizard even appeared in this series? Um, I guess you could include the first guy that Natsu fights and the one guy he saves.



Every other wizard has some ridiculously strong magic that would takes decades to learn, yet they learned it in a brief span of time.



Let's analyze Erza. She is an S-class wizard apart of Fairy Tale said to be on par with those of the 10 Wizard Saints. We see that Laxus, Gildarts, and Mystogan, more or less, shit on Erza in terms of power. So this means that Fairy Tale, including Makarov, have 5 total people at 10 Wizard Saint power. (Does this title mean anything?!)She's a pathetic character that has only declined in power since the start of the series. Only to gain it ALL back for a single moment to defeat a bad ass.



Redhawk, gear second, Zoro's 9 sword style, Robin's wings, don't even mention sanji's powers or how he nearly bled to death.



I agree and personally I prefer the fights in FT than most other series. Especially in the anime which blows the draggy OP fights out the water.



Dragons, other mages, self taught through knowledge gained and the lost/god magics we have yet to find out about but it seems to be gifted in some way.



Lost and ancient magics are common in many stories and myths. This is not exclusive to FT.



Romeo. Wait didn't you say that the magics were limited and specialized yet you want more people to have the same abilities. Most of the magics are variations on other magics we see which fits in with magic coming from the heart, it very much a personal style. If you want an example, Biska and Erza. Also many mages have more than one type of magic. (I hope that Erza teaches Lucy her magic so she no longer has the weak spot of having her keys stolen when not in use. But I don't think it would fit in with Lucy's personality to not have her keys by her side.)



Cana and Fairy Glitter being an example of a gifted magic that is extremely powerful and nullifies your point.



Being a Wizard Saint isn't based on power. They need to be extremely strong but this doesn't define them as being the 10 strongest beings in the world.



Declining in power? Gaining it all back to defeat a bad ass. Who is this bad ass? Don't say Minerva because she even said herself that she was no match for Erza in a fair fight. Erza has extreme durability and very quickly figures out weak spots in her opponents which she did.

Tannen01 said:


yeah, time travel, overdone...and the worst is:

almost nobody gets it right!



Well, it's a paradox by itself so yeah.

bizbiz said:
@Ghost-Edge, did you just compare FT to other shonen?



Look i have read like 80% of long runing shonen battle series, and i can say without any hesitation that FT is far far behind them no comparison, don't call me hater, because when i read FT for the first time i said this manga should at least be in my top 10 best manga ever, do you any idea of how great potential it has in the beginning? the world could have been ever vaster than OP's world... just by the world magic you can create a lot of crazy things... but guess what? mashima prefer romance and nakama power up.



I don't have any problem about someone saying FT is my favorite manga of all time, like you said in the end it's enjoyability that matters, BUT, make difference between enjoyability and quality,



you can like a shitty work simply because you find something that interest you, something you really like, and you can dislike a great work simply because you don't like the content.



And always when i speak about FT, people say "well, do you have a great character like erza"



first of all, erza is all but a good character, in fact she is really really bad character, just for example



this latest Armor that she used against minerva, this is an Over Powered armor that should not be used without a secondary effect (at least)... it's really fucked up this armor, i'd rather see nakama power up instead of this bull shit created of nowhere, seriously if erza has this armor from the begginning of the manga, why didn't she used it against achnologia for example? or against jupiter (from phantom lord arc) she could have simply canceled the magic...



oh and the little FB we got from kagura, that's new, mashima never planned this and never forshadowed it, and it has some contradiction, because in the FB we can see kagura and erza at pretty much the same age, so with the 7 years time skip (which was BS by the way) kagura should have been looking more mature than erza....



Where have I heard all these so called arguments before? Oh yea you must be one of King of lighting's sheep. Your arguments are copy pasted word for word from that guy, since he's the mighty anime shepherd.  Or so he likes to think

Damn second Lucy died...oh well, it was bound to happen sooner or later since she was fading away anyways.



But I wonder what Rogue will do now since he future he knows was obviously changed with the arrival of second Lucy

I agree with some of what you said, but you must admit that



A shojo by definition is destined to women, no matter how many men read it, it's destined to women.

Same thing with shonen and seinen, by definition they are destined to Men or adolescent no matter how many women's read it



From this we can say that a Shonen that attract women more than man, then something is wrong with it, especially battle shonen, that simply means that the author failed... ultimate fail, when your art is destined for adult and you realize that kids are more attracted than adults.. that's a fail



So whats sooo abnormal that attract women more than men...



-relation between character, like you said romance, now, i don't mind to have some romance in a manga, but i do mind if the manga is oriented romance.... yeah i'm sorry FT is oriented romance, no matter how many fights we got, there is a tons of romantic scene in this manga just for example



-natsu/lucy, gray/juvia, gajeel/levy, elefman/ever green, erza/gerard, carla/happy (fuck even cats... cats love),  Biska/Arzak,



secondary lyon/juvia, loki/lucy, lisanna/natsu



and don't be surprised if   cana/someone,  mirajane/someone, laxus/someone etc etc



just name me one battle shonen manga that outnumber FT in romance?, in fact, i've never read shojo, but can you name me 5shojo that have 10 relationship?? i don't think it exists.



Just another example (i know it's not a solid support) but we can at least have an idea about  what's intersting in the manga



here is FT's fan page in FB (the pictures) (look at how many romantic picture at least 75-80%)

http://www.facebook.com/Fairy.Tail.KAI/photos_stream



another battle shonen manga , One Piece and Naruto (romantic pictures represent like 5%)

http://www.facebook.com/oppirates/photos_stream

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Naruto/10573221005?id=10573221005&sk=photos_stream



go look at bleach, HxH and other battle shonen.

that's a fact.



another thing, character development, there is absolutely no character development in this manga... whats the difference between Natsu in the beginning of the manga, and actual natsu, same thing with erza, gray, lucy.



like in every manga we have a sensation that character get stronger and stronger, they grow up (luffy, naruto, ichigo, gon, goku, yusuke etc etc), but here you can bring natsu from chapter 1, he can defeat sting and rogue... yeah i'm serious, you know how fucked up is this? it's like any strength problem in this manga can be solved by friendship&love... like if lucy got a problem natsu will come out and tell her "ohh don't worry babe i'm here i will protect you", and there you go, the antagonist can be strongest man in the world yet natsu will defeat him  because of a nakama power up.



another problem for this series the storyline, very poor, sometimes we completely forget about it, what dragons? i almost forgot that natsu was searching a dragon...

bizbiz said:
i can see it natsu telling lucy "oh you are my friend" "i will not forgive them" baby i love youuuuu ouuuuu what pussy ass crap, and lucy into natsu's hands crying "ohhh thank you" like always



rofl.

I feel stupid posting this question, but how did you guys come to the conclusion that future Lucy lost her arm?

IDK, it looked pretty intact to me...

When I read that I just thought it meant that she had no stamp on her hand, rather it was on her somewhere else on her body / erased.

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English version still not out?!?!!?

NO future LUCY!!!

man that was sad

i cried after read the chapter

f**k'n Rogue i can't believe he did that

he should of at least tried to reason with her or something.

i don't even want to rate this chapter