Fairy Tail Chapter 324 Discussion
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- #126
Same thing with Robin's wings. I will agree that Zoro's Asura and Sanji's Diable Jamble seemed like ass pulls.
The fights in FT are horrible though. There hasn't been anything entertaining about the fights since Tower of Heaven. (That's when I realized they would all end in nakama power 1 shots.
Lost and ancient magic is common in many stories and myths, yes. To the extend of FT's usage, no, not even close. FT is to the point that to even compete, you are required to have a lost or ancient magic. There isn't a single big name player anymore with a common style of magic.
Even Erza's and Lucy's magic have proven to be extremely rare.
Lost and ancient magics are like, dealt on the corner of L street by some shady dealers. "Yo dawg, want a lost magic, it will make you ridiculously strong and turn you into a super villain." "Sure dawg!"
"Being a Wizard Saint isn't based on power." Um, yes it is. That is EXACTLY what the 10 Wizard Saints are. They were defined as the 10 most powerful wizards in sanctioned "good" guilds. You must be thinking of the council of wizard elders, which had an entirely different function.
Because forming your own body parts means you can create something new out of them? You forgot Sanji walking on the air.
The Lucy controlled by the voodoo doll was very entertaining.
The Lost magics were gifted to them by Hades.
Jura has only basic earth magic.
Bisca, Hades, Makarov all share the same magic as Erza. They just don't use it the same or are you talking about her sword magic? Makarov knows a wide variety of magic including basic fire and even Natsu knows transformation magic. Magic is very personalised but not exclusive. And you can't say Makarov isn't a big name (isn't he one of the 10 WS or was before he was believed to be dead).
That would be Hades. We don't even know about LH yet so how can we begin to understand where the dark magics come from. If this was OP you would just snap it up but because it's FT you have to complain.
Wizard Saints get awarded the title from the council leader. Jellal (when on the council and not even a member of any guild) used to be a member before being found out. It isn't a ranking of the 10 most powerful beings in the world. There are other factors.
I shouldn't have to explain this simple stuff, maybe you should re-read/watch FT again or just drop it if you don't enjoy it.
- #127
A shojo by definition is destined to women, no matter how many men read it, it's destined to women.
Same thing with shonen and seinen, by definition they are destined to Men or adolescent no matter how many women's read it
From this we can say that a Shonen that attract women more than man, then something is wrong with it, especially battle shonen, that simply means that the author failed... ultimate fail, when your art is destined for adult and you realize that kids are more attracted than adults.. that's a fail
So whats sooo abnormal that attract women more than men...
-relation between character, like you said romance, now, i don't mind to have some romance in a manga, but i do mind if the manga is oriented romance.... yeah i'm sorry FT is oriented romance, no matter how many fights we got, there is a tons of romantic scene in this manga just for example
Just another example (i know it's not a solid support) but we can at least have an idea about what's intersting in the manga
another thing, character development, there is absolutely no character development in this manga... whats the difference between Natsu in the beginning of the manga, and actual natsu, same thing with erza, gray, lucy.
like in every manga we have a sensation that character get stronger and stronger, they grow up (luffy, naruto, ichigo, gon, goku, yusuke etc etc), but here you can bring natsu from chapter 1, he can defeat sting and rogue... yeah i'm serious, you know how fucked up is this? it's like any strength problem in this manga can be solved by friendship&love... like if lucy got a problem natsu will come out and tell her "ohh don't worry babe i'm here i will protect you", and there you go, the antagonist can be strongest man in the world yet natsu will defeat him because of a nakama power up.
another problem for this series the storyline, very poor, sometimes we completely forget about it, what dragons? i almost forgot that natsu was searching a dragon...
This series is about a guild and the bonds between them, the dragon's aren't the focal point.
Does it matter so much how a manga/anime is defined? Judging on a label is shallow. It should be judged on enjoyability not which department it should be filed away in.
If you're talking about romance then most are used for comic effect as used in many animes or you have relationships that are bound to happen from such a big close knit group. It happens in real life. Also Mashima is a Dragon Ball fan and there are several romantic relationships there.
The relationships (non-romance) are what I enjoy about this manga. The long drawn out fights and shallow character depths of something Like One Piece and Bleach or the 1 dimensional relationship with Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura that really ruined the series are why Fairy Tail really stands above them at the moment. And no I am not one who give an auto 5 out of 5 just for being Fairy Tail and I have give a 1 out of 5 on atleast 1 chapter.
Natsu is not all powerful. Without Etherion, the Exceed crew weakening Hades or other members of Fairy Tail he'd have been beat loads of times. This is nothing unusual and exclusive to only Fairy Tail.
JkImpulse said:
This chapter, like the entire arc, was lackluster and void of substance. Future Lucy died? Oh, was I suppose to feel emotionally attached to a character that has been in, what seems like, 10 total panels?
Lucy is Lucy. Future, past or present. She is the main character.
- #128
Darklight0303 said:
bizbiz said:
@Ghost-Edge, did you just compare FT to other shonen?
Look i have read like 80% of long runing shonen battle series, and i can say without any hesitation that FT is far far behind them no comparison, don't call me hater, because when i read FT for the first time i said this manga should at least be in my top 10 best manga ever, do you any idea of how great potential it has in the beginning? the world could have been ever vaster than OP's world... just by the world magic you can create a lot of crazy things... but guess what? mashima prefer romance and nakama power up.
I don't have any problem about someone saying FT is my favorite manga of all time, like you said in the end it's enjoyability that matters, BUT, make difference between enjoyability and quality,
you can like a shitty work simply because you find something that interest you, something you really like, and you can dislike a great work simply because you don't like the content.
And always when i speak about FT, people say "well, do you have a great character like erza"
first of all, erza is all but a good character, in fact she is really really bad character, just for example
this latest Armor that she used against minerva, this is an Over Powered armor that should not be used without a secondary effect (at least)... it's really fucked up this armor, i'd rather see nakama power up instead of this bull shit created of nowhere, seriously if erza has this armor from the begginning of the manga, why didn't she used it against achnologia for example? or against jupiter (from phantom lord arc) she could have simply canceled the magic...
oh and the little FB we got from kagura, that's new, mashima never planned this and never forshadowed it, and it has some contradiction, because in the FB we can see kagura and erza at pretty much the same age, so with the 7 years time skip (which was BS by the way) kagura should have been looking more mature than erza....
Where have I heard all these so called arguments before? Oh yea you must be one of King of lighting's sheep. Your arguments are copy pasted word for word from that guy, since he's the mighty anime shepherd. Or so he likes to think
^^^^ Erza's armor against Minerva it had to be hat way , she wasn't strong enough( she didn't have her second origin, like with Lucy,Juvia and Gray) they showed there's . Erza showed hers thanks to her second origin.
Another thing people don't understand about Erza magic. She doesn't MAKE her armors. She buys or claims them on adventures. If you'd seen the OVAS you'd see that she has even more armors in her own room and she just calls them using her magic. The items need to exist before she can requip them and they need to be hers.
JkImpulse said:
Darklight0303 said:
bizbiz said:
@Ghost-Edge, did you just compare FT to other shonen?
Look i have read like 80% of long runing shonen battle series, and i can say without any hesitation that FT is far far behind them no comparison, don't call me hater, because when i read FT for the first time i said this manga should at least be in my top 10 best manga ever, do you any idea of how great potential it has in the beginning? the world could have been ever vaster than OP's world... just by the world magic you can create a lot of crazy things... but guess what? mashima prefer romance and nakama power up.
I don't have any problem about someone saying FT is my favorite manga of all time, like you said in the end it's enjoyability that matters, BUT, make difference between enjoyability and quality,
you can like a shitty work simply because you find something that interest you, something you really like, and you can dislike a great work simply because you don't like the content.
And always when i speak about FT, people say "well, do you have a great character like erza"
first of all, erza is all but a good character, in fact she is really really bad character, just for example
this latest Armor that she used against minerva, this is an Over Powered armor that should not be used without a secondary effect (at least)... it's really fucked up this armor, i'd rather see nakama power up instead of this bull shit created of nowhere, seriously if erza has this armor from the begginning of the manga, why didn't she used it against achnologia for example? or against jupiter (from phantom lord arc) she could have simply canceled the magic...
oh and the little FB we got from kagura, that's new, mashima never planned this and never forshadowed it, and it has some contradiction, because in the FB we can see kagura and erza at pretty much the same age, so with the 7 years time skip (which was BS by the way) kagura should have been looking more mature than erza....
Where have I heard all these so called arguments before? Oh yea you must be one of King of lighting's sheep. Your arguments are copy pasted word for word from that guy, since he's the mighty anime shepherd. Or so he likes to think
I like how you chose to point out the fact that you have seen those arguments before instead of attempting to refute any of the above points.
I don't want to waste my time refuting something that can be easily refuted if you actually read the story CAREFULLY and without taking things at face value right from the start. That is something that applies for all anime and manga. Never take something at face value until it is fully confirmed. This applies to ST's fame and power, The eclipse plan 2, Rogue's so called Truth about Lucy closing the gate, Sting and Rogue's supposed claim of killing their own dragons and etc.
A lot of people love to hate this series because it's like a bandwagon thing. Gotta run with the rest of the herd. And that is just pathetic. Yes it does have some flaws but all series have flaws even your precious favorites. If you think otherwise then you are every bit as deluded as those you accuse of blindly liking Fairy Tail. But when you use your own desire for how the show should have been instead of considering the author's intent, then your arguments become as flimsy as paper.
Fandom or fandumb should never EVER dictate how a series goes. That never ends well. Look at D.Gray-man. A dark gothic tale with SO much potential, reduced to complete shit because the fandom didn't want one (undead, pretty boy, cookie cutter cliche) character to die and with that everything went to hell in a basket.
