Fairy Tail Chapter 324 Discussion

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  • #114
And once again Loke proves how useless he is. Lovin it. Well it opens up for a tragic departure for the Nalu armada so not that bothered. Still sad about Future Lucy tho
 
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Darkdrone said:
Darklight0303 said:
Darkdrone said:
The first page seeing Sting's pathetic self acting so happy after the shameful experience of giving up to Fairy Tail, made this chapter already irksome.



The death scene was rushed and not very good in my opinion.



Rogue is a complete moron for telling everyone his plan, he should have just killed current Lucy in a suprise attack.



Found it hilariously convenient , that future Lucy jumped in the right second to protect current Lucy. Made me chuckle at ridiculousness of the whole thing. Natsu was dodging Sting and Rouge in dragon force with ez and your telling me he couldn't have reacted to stopping Rouge's sword? And your telling me Future Lucy calculated the speed and distance to jump at the right moment? Ya......okay.



The ass shot of Lucy kneeling down with future Lucy was unneeded in such a sad moment of the chapter but I guess he got to throw in some fanservice somewhere.



Lets completely forget that Rouge had 7 years training prior before the tournament. And then another 7 years of fighting/surviving off against the dragons.  All in all he got 14 years of training of fighting experience over Natsu and so if he gets stomped Hiro.......smh. What am I talking about, of course he will get stomped with teary eyed move that we seen before with a different name....its Hiro its all about friendship and making Fairy Tail the supreme gods of his manga.



Subpar chapter.



Get out you heartless troll. Future Lucy was right next to Present Lucy you moron and everything else is just you hating and presuming. You think one third gen could survive fighting in world ruled by Dragons and actually kill any? hahaha no. He more than likely used his shadowy powers to move around and reasearch how to change things. Now put that in your tea cup and GET THE FUCK OUT.



Go suck on Hiro's dick you piece of garbage and don't respond to me if you can't take what I said. I loved a lot of other Fairy Tail chapters in the past but this one is shit. Its always the ones that are aimlessly in love with every chapter and have no critique, then when you do have critique you get this jackass who is throwing a hissy fit when I said this chapter was subpar.



Idiots like this use that retarded argument "If you don't like then leave", hey ass face since when is a discussion only positive comments? When someone criticises a piece of work, you don't insult them and call them a troll, you respond with a rational argument. Which is why when you respond to me with crazy bullshit, I will respond back to you with insults.



Last time I will respond to you, so when you are done refreshing the page looking for anyone who criticises Hiro and you see my post, understand you will not get a response. So throw in whatever dick sucking comments you have how this chapter was great and I will be doing other things.



Have a nice day nut job.



Love you too honey.



farfallina said:
Darklight0303 said:


...You know what you said just bumped up the chance of my theory that there are three timelines. One where the Eclipse went as planned and they killed Zeref. This in turn meant the Dragons never went extinct and they reasserted their existence on the day of the Eclipse. That would be Future Rogue's timeline.



Second timeline is future Lucy's where Rogue has already gone back through time to change it only in the end it ended up bringing the dragons into the present as well through the Eclipse gate.



And third is the present timeline where the first two converged.



I really like your theory, it makes sense! but there is something I don't like :P

can I make a little summary?



Well from this chapter is clear now that Future Rogue comes from a FUTURE '1' where 10'000 dragons appear. Maybe in this time line the gate was used to kill Zeref in the past and that made the dragons to appear in the present. But there is a nosense in this theory because if it is then Rogue could just travel back and NOT USE the gate in FUTURE '2' (Zeref will never be killed and dragons will never appear).

So Rogue comes back in F.Lucy's future (future '2') , but they never met each other. F.Rogue's presence alters the time and so F.Lucy comes back too this time.  Rogue's plan fails because the gate was never be opened. Now we have the question: who prevents the gate to be opened? Lucy or not? Is Rogue wrong? Does Lucy suffer of amnesia? Was Lucy possesed by someone, maybe zeref? But how could Lucy do that if she was in jail when dragons came? there are too many theories about this question.



And one more thing: it seems that dragons don't come from the gate because rogue said that even if the gate was prevented to be opened they appeared anyway.



If I misunderstand your theory please let me know :)



And now let me say something about the chapter itself... I'm loving it! As a girl I'm quite moved :-(

...but Rogue is really blind to not see two lucy standing in front of him ahahah OMG



Rogue lived for 7 years in the dragon reclaimed world. Most likely the facts wound up distorted as history has the tendency to over such a long period of time. And Someone has to have told him about the Eclipse and how supposedly Lucy closed it. Rogue was not there to see it so he most likely has only someone elses confession as the sole truth.



And whoever told him that, also told him of the supposed second use of the Eclipse Gate. The Rogue we have now is not from timeline two where Rogue already did as he was told and advised the princess to use the supposed Cannon function of the Eclipse. He is from Timeline one. In timeline two aka Future Lucy's timeline his fate is unknown hell he might even be dead after the Dragons would theoretically come pouring out of the gate.
 
  • #116
bizbiz said:
I agree with some of what you said, but you must admit that



A shojo by definition is destined to women, no matter how many men read it, it's destined to women.

Same thing with shonen and seinen, by definition they are destined to Men or adolescent no matter how many women's read it



From this we can say that a Shonen that attract women more than man, then something is wrong with it, especially battle shonen, that simply means that the author failed... ultimate fail, when your art is destined for adult and you realize that kids are more attracted than adults.. that's a fail



So whats sooo abnormal that attract women more than men...



-relation between character, like you said romance, now, i don't mind to have some romance in a manga, but i do mind if the manga is oriented romance.... yeah i'm sorry FT is oriented romance, no matter how many fights we got, there is a tons of romantic scene in this manga just for example



-natsu/lucy, gray/juvia, gajeel/levy, elefman/ever green, erza/gerard, carla/happy (fuck even cats... cats love),  Biska/Arzak,



secondary lyon/juvia, loki/lucy, lisanna/natsu



and don't be surprised if   cana/someone,  mirajane/someone, laxus/someone etc etc



just name me one battle shonen manga that outnumber FT in romance?, in fact, i've never read shojo, but can you name me 5shojo that have 10 relationship?? i don't think it exists.



Just another example (i know it's not a solid support) but we can at least have an idea about  what's intersting in the manga



here is FT's fan page in FB (the pictures) (look at how many romantic picture at least 75-80%)

http://www.facebook.com/Fairy.Tail.KAI/photos_stream



another battle shonen manga , One Piece and Naruto (romantic pictures represent like 5%)

http://www.facebook.com/oppirates/photos_stream

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Naruto/10573221005?id=10573221005&sk=photos_stream



go look at bleach, HxH and other battle shonen.

that's a fact.



another thing, character development, there is absolutely no character development in this manga... whats the difference between Natsu in the beginning of the manga, and actual natsu, same thing with erza, gray, lucy.



like in every manga we have a sensation that character get stronger and stronger, they grow up (luffy, naruto, ichigo, gon, goku, yusuke etc etc), but here you can bring natsu from chapter 1, he can defeat sting and rogue... yeah i'm serious, you know how fucked up is this? it's like any strength problem in this manga can be solved by friendship&love... like if lucy got a problem natsu will come out and tell her "ohh don't worry babe i'm here i will protect you", and there you go, the antagonist can be strongest man in the world yet natsu will defeat him  because of a nakama power up.



another problem for this series the storyline, very poor, sometimes we completely forget about it, what dragons? i almost forgot that natsu was searching a dragon...

I feel as if Mashino completely forgot that Natsu is searching for Igneel. I also feel as if he forgot around chapter 50.



This chapter, like the entire arc, was lackluster and void of substance. Future Lucy died? Oh, was I suppose to feel emotionally attached to a character that has been in, what seems like, 10 total panels?



I feel as if the plots are getting a lil too "out there" or "illogical". Even for a manga about wizards and magic.
 
  • #117
mtgowns said:
Talukita said:
Some interesting news from Mashima's Twitter:



I’m not making any progress with the name. There are times when I finish 20 pages in 2 hours, and there are also times when I can’t even get 1 page done in 10 hours.





ネームが進まない。2時間で20P終わる時もあれば、10時間かけても1Pも進まない時もある 。



It’s been a while since the last time my name was rejected entirely. I’m redoing all 20 pages. But since it’s for the sake of making an interesting story I won’t consider it all that troublesome.





久しぶりにネームの全ボツくらった。20P丸々書き直し。だけど面白い一話を作る為なら全く苦 じゃない。



Name here is basically a storyboard of a chapter.



To sum up Mashima’s chapter gets rejected ENTIRELY by the editors, and have to rewrite a new one again. This gives multiple meanings, like maybe he tried to kill someone off and the editors didn’t like this decision. This also means that now FT will go a different route compared to the planned note that has been released earlier (about Lucy kneeling before Zeref and such).



ruh hoh



instead of Lucy kneeling before Zeref, she will act scared when she sees him and her boobs will bounce



i think that's more or less what the editors are looking for as of late.



haha yes i know what you mean!  I couldn't believe how crazy that pinup war between Mirajane and that other woman got in the colusseum;)
 
  • #118
The first page seeing Sting's pathetic self acting so happy after the shameful experience of giving up to Fairy Tail, made this chapter already irksome.



The death scene was rushed and not very good in my opinion.



Rogue is a complete moron for telling everyone his plan, he should have just killed current Lucy in a suprise attack.



Found it hilariously convenient , that future Lucy jumped in the right second to protect current Lucy. Made me chuckle at ridiculousness of the whole thing. Natsu was dodging Sting and Rouge in dragon force with ez and your telling me he couldn't have reacted to stopping Rouge's sword? And your telling me Future Lucy calculated the speed and distance to jump at the right moment? Ya......okay.



The ass shot of Lucy kneeling down with future Lucy was unneeded in such a sad moment of the chapter but I guess he got to throw in some fanservice somewhere.



Lets completely forget that Rouge had 7 years training prior before the tournament. And then another 7 years of fighting/surviving off against the dragons.  All in all he got 14 years of training of fighting experience over Natsu and so if he gets stomped Hiro.......smh. What am I talking about, of course he will get stomped with teary eyed move that we seen before with a different name....its Hiro its all about friendship and making Fairy Tail the supreme gods of his manga.



Subpar chapter.
 
  • #120
Darklight0303 said:
VentusCross said:
Call me a troll if you wish, but this was quite a low quality chapter.



I mean yeah, killing Future Lucy was a little (emphasis on little) bit shocking, it poses the question.

Why the hell didn't Rouge just kill the Present Lucy after he took down Future Lucy? He would have killed two birds with one stone, and would have actually benefited the world as a result. I would love to see Mashima's explanation for her closing the gate. Probably something to do with friendship.



Also guys and gals, don't get hyped for the fight next chapter. It's going to be the same Nakama power BS that's in every single fight regarding the Fairy Tail guild.



Overall, this chapter was subpar. I just hope that Mashima remembers his one good manga, Rave Master, during Fairy Tail's lifespan...



See your mistake here is you taking Rogue's truth as the full truth and not even considering that someone may have warped things around to benefit them and use Rogue for their dirty work. Did the Tower of Heaven arc teach you nothing?



It's true that they may have used Rouge as a tool for their gain, but the fact of the matter is that wouldn't Rouge gather more intel before making the assumption that Lucy closed the gate?

I don't know about Rouge, but I would want to learn more about the gate that will govern the fate of the entire world before making crazy accusations at people.
 
  • #121
Orulyon said:
Darklight0303 said:


I don't think you can count Pandora Hearts as a Shounen given the constant heartbreaking horror we have every month >~>;;;;;;;;;; XDDD



That´s part of its charm XD







True. Or maybe we have just been turned into emotional masochists over the duration of its serialization XD
 
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