kiDnameDSkia said:
Well, I don't have the wil to search for it, but I believe it was stated in the beginning that both of them were Wizard saints (I mean Jellal and Ultear), you can check it up, again my mistake if it turns out it's not like that.
Regarding Natsu and dragonforce, it's not so subjective if you think about Sting and Rogue dragonforce. It's not that unbeatable a technique. A WS should've been able to annihilate it.
Its not Ultear that was a Wizard Saint.
Her mother, Ur , had the potential to be one.
Natsu's dragonforce has basically been confirmed to be stronger than Sting and Rogue.
Look at the extremely huge boosts in every category Natsu gains once he enters it and then there's the Aura of a Dragon (Igneel) that is usually accompanied by it.
Kanic said:
I'm not sure to whom exactly you were responding with each sentence but nevermind I'll try.
-I'm not entirely sure how crash works. We know that it shatters things, meaning it can turn anything solid to dust but what about the rest like liquid,gas, energy based magic(like Natsu's fire or Juvia's water). So I'm not sure if it can beat anyone
-I think that Jura as he is now he is incredibly close to Makarov, maybe not equal but not useless in front of him. He IS considered after all the strongest mage in the Daimato.
I'm just going to reply to this even if you weren't referring to me at all.
- Crash worked on Natsu's Fire Dragons Roar. It turned his flames into cube that then dispersed.
- Considered the strongest by Lyon that is.
Who can take Lyon credibility serious after exclaiming that Wendy wouldn't stand a chance against Chelia.
Does he even know what type of 3 Month Training the Tenrou Team did. Erza's plan, after wasting 3 months was a "Crash Training From Hell". What if the others actually did such training?