Skip Beat! Chapter 223 Discussion

Okay... first of all am I the only one that wanted to rage flip something with what her freaking mother said? Seriously, that's some certified bull-shit right there.



Thankfully Ren had an inkling on where to find her though. Like damn it, seeing that chapter was pretty heart-breaking. Least everyone knows how much of a wicked witch her mother is and why Kyoko had constantly been against contacting her and all that... why she's in the "Love Me" section. That right there reveals where a lot of her views were probably spurred by.



Still, I can't wait for the next chapter. Seriously man, it's like they take turns going back and forth in helping each other. That's not a bad thing, actually, I like that part about this because it's not the female character in constant need but rather she helps others see the light and all that jazz.



In short? Hate her mom, love Kyoko and feels when she had to see her mother deny her existence... go Showa for attempting to help her even though he was the wrong person to be there at least he tried as a friend since he knows how that goes and a great big huzzah for Ren being able to find her because now she could really use some help to get over that.



Okay so now I'm a tad curious... or I just don't recall it being mentioned but... who is Kyoko's father? Reason I'm asking/wondering is because, well, where was he when she was growing up? Why hadn't he been there to help raise her and not let her mother treat her the way she did? Just things I wondered... or possibly have forgotten because it seems like her father should've been mentioned at least once.

Happy Mother's Day

I love this manga. It doesn't cease to surprise me. Nakamura Yoshiki sensei is absolutely great!

I've been reading the raws, but I've also found a Spanish translation and I've managed to see what they were saying. It's good that Shoutaro finally understands what he truly lost when he rejected and mistreated Kyouko, though this chapter isn't about that. Perhaps is wrong of me to think like this, but I still hope he will finally understand that Kyouko is a great person, that she is a wonderful girl, and that he is the most absolute asshole. Anyway, I disliked the fact that he kissed her -though he did so to make her ”react”, so he had good intentions (I hope nobody saw them -_- that would be quite unlucky). On the other hand, I am also glad that Kyouko did not/could not open to Shoutaro (it would have been most unfair, in a way) and I liked how she dismissed him.

I didn't expect to see her so expressionless. I also thought she could no longer be touched by such things, but it appears that she is not quite over her mother's mistreatment... and perhaps she never will be. I am quite curious about Saena's true thoughts and feelings. I felt tremendously sad for Kyouko, as she is my first favourite female character from all the animes I've watched so far. I wanted her to cry, and yet I didn't want her to cry in front of Shoutaro. I wondered what she will do next, and I wondered what would make her feel better, if such a thing were to happen... and yes, I was also afraid that she would end up by being consoled by Shoutaro. No matter how good and fair his reasons and intentions might be, I still don't want him to comfort Kyouko in such moments, for he has never been by her side when she truly needed him... With this type of feeling I've watched Ren appear, while Kyouko was thinking of Kuon/Corn, and my heart.... skipped a beat, as it always does in moments as such. I am glad Ren appeared! I am glad he is here! I felt tremendously bad for him when I saw Shoutaro coming to ”help” Kyouko when he (Ren) was still wondering what to do. Of course he should be there, by her side, I thought, and it's true, isn't it, that he should be there for her? After all, he loves her, and she loves him; it should just be this way. I am forever grateful to Nakamura sensei for taking this turn of events! ^^ now I can rest assured that Kyouko will be okay, that she will recover, that she will cry her heart out and she will finally be capable of having a not-so-lifeless-expression. I see Ren as a salvation for Kyouko, in many senses, and I hope she can/will be a salvation for him as well, when the time will come.

ARGH, I feel I've been a little inconsistent with my words/thoughts. Nevertheless, I loved the chapter and I can't wait for the next one.  -_- I can't wait! I wish the manga would update once a week, not once a month; but I suppose you can't have it all.



Go, go, go Ren! Save Kyouko-chan!

I have to confess, I haven't been enjoying this manga the same way ever since Kyoko admitted to having feelings for Ren. The entire conversation between Kyoko and Corn bored the hell out of me, Ren-Kuon development could have had more impact, same as Kyoko's acceptance of her feelings for Ren. As of this arc, the entire mother drama is kind of cringey to me, it's as if everything revolves around Kyoko now, when it used to be different. I just don't want the protagonist to get too much attention from everyone around her as if they live their life revolving around her. I used to root for her a lot more when she was battling through hardship alone/with less help.



I am also totally not a fan of Fuwa Sho's character. His entire character concept is cliche and generic. Nakamura sensei's attempt at redeeming his character is just terrible, his entire development doesn't warrant so much love from the fans, as he only started to care about Kyoko after he found out that she can also be quite the beauty after putting on some make up, pretty much all he cared about is violating Kyoko which he has proven my point by repeatedly seeing her only as an object - forced a kiss on her twice without her consent. He may be somewhat cool at times but don't be fooled, his character is terrible. I hope he doesn't appear anymore though it seems very unlikely.



As much as I hate Sho, you have to admire the balls it took for him to go and see her. It shows that deep down somewhere a human soul still resides.This comment on KM shows how misguided the fans are. Sho has been using Mimori since day one, and he used her recently to gain an advantage over Kyoko and forcefully take away her freedom. Sho's development just doesn't make a lot of sense, if you go back to the first episode and look at how remorse-less he was, compared to how he's acting after he "fall in love" with Kyoko.



Skip Beat needs to go back to being about Ren and Kyoko, and stop giving side characters so much screen time as much as I love them, characters like President, Yashiro and perhaps Sho are best when they were given minimal screen time.



I just hope that I could retain my love for this series as it ends, there's too many manga I read that I loved at the beginning but quality started to wane as it gets dragged on.

Makes sense that Kyouko wouldn't want to show any emotion (cry) in front of Shou. (i don't really feel bad for him, oops) This is just another consequence of him manipulating her like he did :P



I went back and read the chapter again to see the taxi, and yeah. I also think Ren was in the taxi (since the mangaka emphasized it so much) and saw the kiss. Though I don't think he would get mad at her, at least I hope not. If so, I think it would be rather childish considering the emotional state she's currently in.

I wonder if she realised that Ren is actually Corn, I get that feeling somehow

I totally get why Kyoko was so distant for Sho btw, since he pretty much did the same thing to her, leaving her like he did

English Scans are out -- I did a couple but also provided link the complete chapter someone else did.



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I'm indiff to Shou, he's just a tool to add to the drama.  It's working, I can't wait to see what happens next.  I'm so in love with Ren!!

Read it on raffmanga because I just couldn't wait for the nice and pretty S2Scans to come out.



I was expecting myself to bawl at the end. I almost did. The tears were forming and everything until they suddenly dried up and I felt so, so empty. Damn, Kyouko...



I definitely think Ren saw the kiss Shou planted on her. There was that taxi passing by when they did, and then, when Ren appears in the park, there's a taxi behind him. The reason it's a significant detail is because the mangaka bothered to include the sound effects.



I wonder what Ren's thinking. His expression seemed pretty blank, albeit completely different from hers. I really hope he doesn't get angry at Kyouko. Not right now. Not when she needs to let it all out. And surprisingly, my heart aches for all three of them. Shou included.



Ugh, this story feels too real. Love you, Skip Beat! but you're making everything hurt. Go back to tickling our funny bones as soon as possible <3

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RAWS!!!



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THIS IS HOW I CURRENTLY FEELING RIGHT NOW!!!! (╬￣皿￣)凸 TIMES A MILLION!!!!!! YOU BASTARD!!!!! ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ (╬￣皿￣)凸



AND THIS!! THIS!!!!!! *starts destroying things and throwing things out the window and against the walls* He's taking advantage of her!!!! I mean, LOOK at her eyes!! They're LIFELESS!!!

Kyoko denies about he said.  He tried out by almost kissing her and she's emotionless.  They went missing afterwards separately, when Kyoko saw Ren when thinking about Corn.  Then she showed sadness in front of him.

WonderlandBeat said:
Okay... first of all am I the only one that wanted to rage flip something with what her freaking mother said? Seriously, that's some certified bull-shit right there.



Thankfully Ren had an inkling on where to find her though. Like damn it, seeing that chapter was pretty heart-breaking. Least everyone knows how much of a wicked witch her mother is and why Kyoko had constantly been against contacting her and all that... why she's in the "Love Me" section. That right there reveals where a lot of her views were probably spurred by.



Still, I can't wait for the next chapter. Seriously man, it's like they take turns going back and forth in helping each other. That's not a bad thing, actually, I like that part about this because it's not the female character in constant need but rather she helps others see the light and all that jazz.



In short? Hate her mom, love Kyoko and feels when she had to see her mother deny her existence... go Showa for attempting to help her even though he was the wrong person to be there at least he tried as a friend since he knows how that goes and a great big huzzah for Ren being able to find her because now she could really use some help to get over that.



Okay so now I'm a tad curious... or I just don't recall it being mentioned but... who is Kyoko's father? Reason I'm asking/wondering is because, well, where was he when she was growing up? Why hadn't he been there to help raise her and not let her mother treat her the way she did? Just things I wondered... or possibly have forgotten because it seems like her father should've been mentioned at least once.



i think Kyoko's mom hates Kyoko because her husband left her or died or was a bad person, so she hates the daughter who is a reminder of the husband.

sheidesu said:
I feel bad for Shou. Kyouko hates him so much that she wouldn't even try to cry in front of him, not only that, she wouldn't even show her true feelings at all.



After all, I just can't hate Shou. He's the worst but I still love him :(



Pretty much this.



I really hope Kyouko snaps out of it and shows more emotions soon because her eyes were really expressionless this chapter.