ragingx said:
My issue is that there are other ways Kaname could have tried to force Zero to remember that weren't nearly as torturous. And regardless of Kaname's actions I believe Zero would regain his memories anyway, not to mention I think Kaito handled it in a much more humane way.
I have to disagree that she'll ever 'get over Zero' as its been shown repeatedly that part of her will always belong to him. Her wanting to stay in the room away from Zero has more to do with awkwardness knowing what she's done to him and trying to avoid the feelings she knows still are within her for him, which even Kaname knows are there.
She was actually telling him to stop trying to bring Zero into their problems for Zero's sake not anything to do the relationship as she wanted to let Zero be freed from them. Unfortunately for her red string (wonder if anyone will get this ref xD) won't let that happen.
As for sending Zero to the mansion, I believe its simply that they're in a rush (since furnace is nearing completion) and that Zero is one of their best hunters (not to mention one of the only ones with an anti-vampire weapon in hand). Though I'd also toss in the whole red string too but I fully admit that this is a biased idea.
Yes there are probably other ways he could do it but in that case I think it's more appropriate to hate the method rather than the character, all the Zeki fans that say "Kaname should just die" after reading this chapter or just plain hate on his character is kind of well, silly, in my opinion since he is essentially on your side (even if his reasons for doing it are selfish). It would be like me, a YuMe fan, hating on Zero for saying that Kaname is the one Yuuki needs (from all those chapters back). I wouldn't really call Kaname's method torturous unless we put Yuuki, who clearly doesn't want Zero to remember, into the equation since Zero himself just considers Yuuki another pureblood he's not really all that bothered by it at all. And yes Zero probably will remember on his own but I think Kaname's impatient. He wants Zero to remember before he goes to throw his heart into the furnace so that he can entrust Yuuki to him and he's a probably a bit desperate now after he confirmed that Yuuki did indeed sabotage his Zeki plans.
Oh no don't get me wrong I wasn't implying that Yuuki will ever get over Zero I don't doubt that a part of her heart will always be attached to Zero even if she chooses Kaname. I was just responding to the HikaruIzumi since they said that Yuuki "Despite deciding to be with Kaname, she keeps showing signs of loving Zero without trying to hide them or any guilt." because it's not like Yuuki will just stop loving about Zero if she chooses Kaname or acting like she loves Zero, I just wanted to make clear that it will be hard for Yuuki at first "get over" was probably a bad choice of words "move on" would probably be more appropriate which doesn't necessarily imply she stops loving him completely but rather that she moves forward in life. I'd complare Yuuki and Zero to Amon and Raisa from the Seven Realms series as Raisa and Amon did love each other and never stopped loving each other even though they both chose someone else.
Yes part of her not wanting to see Zero may have been awkwardness but like my get over thing that was just in reply to HikaruIzumi I was just trying to make my point that Yuuki is trying to stick will her choice of Kaname and not flip-flop between the two. I think her flip-flopping would have been more like 'ZOMG!! Zero's here! I want to see him!! *.*" maybe toned down a bit but that's basically the point I was trying to make.
I think half of her telling him to stop was for Zero's sake but the other half was for her and Kaname's relationship, she wants to solve the problems they have in their relationship (which includes Kaname's self-sacrifice complex and Yuuki's naive plan to make Kaname human) without getting anyone else involved.
"As for sending Zero to the mansion, I believe its simply that they're in a rush (since furnace is nearing completion) and that Zero is one of their best hunters (not to mention one of the only ones with an anti-vampire weapon in hand)."
Well that makes a lot more sense than my explanation XD
@yunaleia
Itachi went to mental extremes the same as Kaname, he manipulated his brother into hating him which basically turned Sasuke into a cold, heartless, evil, bastard and he didn't seem to care that it made Sasuke suffer and in making Sasuke suffer Naruto and Sakura also suffered not to mention countless other characters. But in the end we all still love Itachi because we know he only did all that for the sake of his little brother whom he had the best interests at heart for. Kaname has Yuuki's (and the humans as seen in this chapter) interests at heart even if the way he goes about doing it seems devilish. That's what makes him an anti-hero (which is the proper term by the way, not anti-villain)
And yes Kaname is attempting to "save" the Zeki ship, there's not other way to put it. He wants Zeki to happen, regardless of his own personal reasons for wanting it, he is on the Zeki's side. Hate his methods not his character, hating his character when he's on your side just makes the whole Zeki part of the fandom (even those who aren't doing so) look silly to the rest of us.
This quote from tumblr says it better than I can:
Mico said:
Could someone please explain to me why the Zeki fans are pissed off at Kaname this time?
For gods sake, he’s on your side! He’s trying to make Zero gain his memories back because in the end he’s planning on throwing his heart into the furnace and would feel much happier if Yuuki was with Zero because she’d be safe with him and he knows they both have feelings for each other.
Dammit you guys, I ship Yume and even I can see this.
Yes Yuuki slapped Kaname but that’s because he was trying to use the scent of Yuuki’s blood to make Zero gain his memories back (and Yuuki doesn’t want this because she’s convinced she’s convinced she’s going to kill herself in one way or another as much as Kaname doesn’t want her to). Yes Kaname’s methods aren’t the best but he’s not doing it to be an arsehole, he’s doing it to help your ship so for once you guys need to chill your beans and stop moaning at everything Kaname does -_-
