Vampire Knight Chapter 88 Discussion

To be honest, they're both lovely and would both deserve to be her 'prince'. I can understand that Yuuki can't/doesn't wanna decide :P



It looks like she already made her decision though, when she started talking to Zero about how it could've been between the two of them if they weren't vampires.

I don't really like her any more though, she has nothing left of the happy, bubbly personality from the beginning. She's really dark and mysterious now, so I guess in fact both of them would be better off without her. Zero was her second choice right from the beginning and he doesn't deserve that. On the other hand, because she doesn't understand Kaname's behaviour and that he's doing it for her, she runs back to Zero.

The feeling the anime brought over in the 2 seasons was much more romantic and heartbreaking at the same time than what it is now in my opinion. I was always torn apart myself between the two guys. When I started watching I liked Zero more, then Kaname til the end but now after reading so much more I'm torn apart again and I have no idea what's going to happen, can only guess as much.



I'm still confused about a few things tho;



1. Doesn't Kaname actually love the hooded woman like in the dream/vision he showed Yuuki?

and 2. didn't Kaname say that he's not actually Yuuki's brother but stole his body or whatever?

Please make Rima and Shiki a canon couple. =D



... though I think it is pretty much canon.

Can we all just come to an agreemant that yuuki is a slut and just move on instead of having internet arguments and wall of texts

Oooh I just can't wait >.< Finally some action!!

obviouslygeeky said:


I think that Yuuki feels romantic love for both Kaname and Zero but I do think that your bias against Zero perhaps prevents you from seeing the manga's focus at the moment is Yuuki's feelings for Zero, and I think these feelings are currently stronger than her feelings for Kaname. When Yuuki talks about being a human I think it's very clear that in that if she was a human not a vampire she would regard Kaname just as a brother and that Zero is the one she would be interested in not Kaname. For pure blood vampire incest is ok/normal but for humans it is not which is why I think in that scenario if Yuuki was a human and did not remember being a vampire than her feelings for Kaname would be normal sibling love not romantic love.

As for Zero crushing the notion that they would of never fallen in love in an alternate world, I don't take that as being crushing for Zeki in any way, it's just typical Zero behavior - it would most likely be just as Yuuki says it would be. If Hino went for a scenario where Kaname somehow heroically dies and Yuuki and Zero become humans (or all 3 of them become humans) I can imagine the final scenes/chapter playing out in a scene just as Yuuki imagined.

Regardless of who lives or dies or what the end pairing is (there might not even be an end pairing if it ends in tragedy) I hope that Hino does justice to both Zero and Kaname's characters arcs so that fans can at least be happy with that aspect even if they are disappointed with their ship not 'winning'.



I don't know where you got that I'm biased against Zero, I dislike him that doesn't mean I'm unable to see that the manga's current focus at the moment is on Yuuki's feelings for Zero. And if anything my dislike for Zero helps me to see such scenes from a normal neutral view rather than through the rose colored glasses of a ship.



Also your comment on how you think it would be how Yuuki imagined if all three became human or if Kaname dies and Yuuki and Zero become human got me thinking (and this doesn't really have much to do with you or your comment) if that were to happen my score for this manga would probably plummet o.o and it's not just because of the end pair either it's because such a scenario would be like "Deus ex machina! Romance style!" Especially the one where all three become human . . . *shudders at the thought*



Hino please don't go with such an ending, I'd be happier with almost anything (even a Zeki ending) but that T.T

Meh, I don't like where this is going. The episode ends and we don't know if Zero really forgot her or not, I hope he can stop her somehow. It'd be so complicated and sad if she erased his memories. At least this chapter didn't leave me with question marks over my head though, the last few I had no idea what the heck was going on and just went with the flow tbh. Maybe it'll even be Zero who kills either her or Kaname (or both?) eventually.



However, at first I preferred Kaname, but now he's just being a weirdo, nothing like the charming, gentle, tender, loving, cool vampire from before. I don't now why all he ever does nowadays is saying weird stuff, confusing me and then disappearing again T.T it' kinda hard for me to let him go but my guess is that he'll die. Out turn will either be ITT's option B or C imo.

I'm still absolutely loving the story but I feel like his transformation was a bit too rushed, from one chapter to another I felt like they replaced him for some cold-hearted, greedy-for-power super vampire for no reason whatsoever :(





I'm glad I started reading the manga (when I finished season 2 of the anime I felt kinda empty and wanted to know how it ends not knowing the manga is still airing lol) Besides, does any1 know when and if season 3 will b out? I love the voice actors they've chosen for them.



But stay tuned guys, hearts will be broken! :<



Edit: Absolutely loved the cover artwork and Yuuki in her ball dress (still think she's a lot prettier with long hair but whatever >,< )

Nendz said:


I'm still confused about a few things tho;



1. Doesn't Kaname actually love the hooded woman like in the dream/vision he showed Yuuki?

and 2. didn't Kaname say that he's not actually Yuuki's brother but stole his body or whatever?



To answer your questions:



1. Kaname LOVED the hooded woman but then she died and now he loves Yuuki more (obvious from his actions and words), and she isn't just a replacement because he stated in the dream/vision that you can't replace a person.



2. Kaname isn't actually Yuuki's brother, but he didn't steal the body of Yuuki's real brother. Rido stole Yuuki's real brother and used his life to revive Kaname who then attacked Rido and drank some of his blood but the blood and the life of the baby weren't enough to awaken Kaname in a complete state his body was to weak and he was too full of bloodlust so in order to survive he reverted his body to the size of a baby and suppressed his memories. You can read the pages here: It's pages 5-10



Btw I love the picture in your signature :)

Nendz said:
chyel416 said:
Gosh i really hate Yuuki now (is not like i dont hate her in the past). She's like the only character in this manga that haven't mature( Ok some of u might be.. hey she did mature , she have thoughts of saving the world by stopping Kaname ..blah blah blah) But seriously, all she did   so far was so brainless, she's so weak and yet she act strong? Cant she just see where she actually stands or how weak she actually is!? I am glad that Zero is not reckless as before and actually grown up . While Kaname decided to do something good.



Seriously i will pray to whatever supernatural stuff out there that Yuuki will at least GROW UP WITH SOME BRAINS AND SENSES.



Fully agree with you! It's not even that she didn't get any more mature than at the beginning but she lost everything that marked her personality too. She's not cute, bubbly, happy, kind and lovely any more. Just seems like a selfish, pitiful emo-girl (no offence!) with no self-esteem, completely lacking the ability to make decisions.



Just kinda realized what a suitable song AFI - Silver & Cold for the entire love triangle (especially from Kaname's side imo) is tho :'3



Great song btw - and yes it really does fit.    I don't like her personality at all either, she has seriously gone downhill from the spunky girl in the beginning of the manga.