Vinland Saga Chapter 88 Discussion

Dreamtime said:
Farmland Saga you were boring while you lasted







Why the fuck do people hate character development? Farmland Saga was great. You can't carry longboats and slaughter enemies all the time...

The character development alone makes this arc amazing, not to mention the art progression and the faithful illustration of everyday hardships.

Nidhoeggr said:
Dreamtime said:
Farmland Saga you were boring while you lasted







Why the fuck do people hate character development? Farmland Saga was great. You can't carry longboats and slaughter enemies all the time...

The character development alone makes this arc amazing, not to mention the art progression and the faithful illustration of everyday hardships.



This.



I loved this entire farm arc, and now its reaching its conclusion, it's going to be awesome >.<

Raven_Shinobi said:
huntx said:
lol to ppl, farmland saga is one of best part of Vinland Saga.



This!



Of all the arcs in the manga so far, the farm arc is the one where Thorfinn gets the most development. In volumes 1-8 that many people seem to prefer, Thorfinn was just a grumpy killing machine, and his character was the same and unaffected by those around him until he was sold as a slave.



Back onto this chapter, poor Arneis. It was tragic that she lost her son, her freedom and the man that she loved. All women beaters should be dealt with :X



Going by historical facts, I anticipate everything will work out to Canute's favor in the end. It would be cool though if Iron Fist Ketil ended up being a true story, and, as hopeless as it may seem, he'll end up putting up a good fight to the death.



I see Vinland Saga as showing Thorfinn's life in three parts:

Childhood before revenge, Teenager during revenge, Adulthood after revenge.



As a child Thorfinn was innocent and happy.

As a teen Thorfinn was angry and bitter.



Teenage Thorfinn had a very one track mind--kill Askeladd.

But he could never succeed because his idea of revenge was

too childish. He thought all he had to do was train and get stronger

so he could one day best Askeladd. But it doesn't work like that.

No matter how much Thorfinn tries he's simply no match for Askeladd

who is really only "fighting" Thofinn because it amuses him.

Askeladd tells Thorfinn how to REALLY get revenge and it's

nothing like the honorable fantasy Thorfinn imagines for himself.

Then later with Askeladd's death Thorfinn's world shatters again.



Now as an adult Thorfinn learns understanding and acceptance

he knows that being a "grumpy killing machine" will lead him nowhere

and so he tries to be a pacifist instead but I think he knows that won't

work either. He knows the world is too ugly. So now he's trying to find

that balance which I think will lead him to become a True Warrior

like his father Thors the Troll.



Leif was right. Thorfinn has grown up and I'm glad.



Now set sail for Vinland!

Can anybody tell me what the letters on the sword were? It looked Germanic, and I don't really get it...

Dreamtime said:
Nidhoeggr said:
Dreamtime said:
Farmland Saga you were boring while you lasted







Why the fuck do people hate character development? Farmland Saga was great. You can't carry longboats and slaughter enemies all the time...

The character development alone makes this arc amazing, not to mention the art progression and the faithful illustration of everyday hardships.



I never said it was bad...i just find it somewhat forgetable....the pace of releases was making it painful to follow and character development is around zero as thorfin didnt really change after spending so much time in the farm..maybe a little but only in the last 2-3 chapters



You obviously didn't pay much attention then.

The whole so called farmland saga had a huge Thorfinn's (and not only) character development. He's nothing like that kid he used to be before. Since the beginning of this farm/slave arc we saw Thorfinn slowly changing (one of the biggest step forward in his development was when he accepted his guilt for all those past killings). How from an "empty", revenge obsessed kid he changed into a human with strong emotions and feelings. The "old" Thorfin didn't care about anything/anyone. Remember that part when a woman was about to be raped and he just passed by? Would a "new" Thorfinn do that? He stood up against Snake for Arneis and her husband's sake even though he knew that won't end good for him. It's just a small glimpse at how much Thorfinn's character changed. And it definitely didn't took him 2-3 chapters.

damn. ketil really snapped

I really hope Arneis survives all this.

RS said:
I really hope Arneis survives all this.



Yea. While she did play a part to get herself in this state knowingly, surviving might be too harsh for her now that the only thing that kept her living was forcefully taken away. I won't be surprised if she contemplates suicide.



I guess I wish she found the strength to survive.