Naruto Chapter 501 Discussion

  • #18
I'm looking forward to some Minato action next week :)
 
  • #19
I'd love to sit here and pick the chapter apart but then I realize, you either love it or hate or somewhere in between.  Nuf said.
 
  • #20
Wow, Kishi is really trying hard to force Sasuke into just about any conceivable situation that deals with Naruto lately.
 
  • #21
DestinyFate said:
Kushina survived so what? She's going to die very soon anyways.







Naruto was pretty cool when he first appeared in Sage mode. But he definitely has to learn his father's flash techniques!



Kushina surviving the extracrtion is Kishimoto's cheap way of making sure that naruto will survive it too.



Yes Naruto was pretty cool when he appeared in Sage Mode. Then he got trolled.

Yes Naruto was pretty cool when he appeared to fight Zombie-akatsuki-fodder. Then he got trolled.

Yes naruto was pretty cool when he was introduced at start of part II. Then he got trolled.



Thats the problem with Kishimoto. He's like "omg i made him too cool, can't do that, let's do some nonsensical kyuubi unleashing and hyperventilation to add moar fail to him"







Not to mention that the whole flashback is FUCKING BORING



We did not see anything new. We did not see anything thrilling. we did not see a massive battle of hundreds of ninja fighting kyuubi. We did not see a well drawn kyuubi. Look at Turn Back The Pendulum in bleach. Thats how a flashback should go if it does not contain any more shocking stuff. Look at TRC flashbacks. Thats how you do flashbacks full of twists.



Kyuubi flashback so far is boring re-confirmation of everything we know. With corny destined bromance added in.



1Panelkyuubi-flashbacks-of-ninjas-heroically-fighting-the-natural-disaster-kyuubi > this arc.



batossai said:


you never know i mean naruto is only 16 so he still has time to grow up and become as cool. i mean he has shown considerable growth compared to how he was in the begining of the manga so there is hope.



on another note, i wonder if naruto is gonna want revenge after finding out that madara killed both his parents.





Lul? You do know this is Kishi we are talking about. Its obvious Naruto will fuse with Saucegay, form new rikkudou Sennin and disappear after the battle with HATRED.



Revenge? This Naruto? He's worse than Jeesus now.



If Jesus got his father and mother killed, he would start summoning dragons or something like every lvl99 Cleric.



If Naruto got his father and mother killed, he would read the killer a nice book and hug him.



Dandere-chan said:
I think the last panel was meant for us to notice Itachi, not Sasuke.

It might be here that Itachi meet Madara for the first time.



Nah. That was obligatory Jyuubi foreshadowing, with the moon and everything.



In b4 Madara is Jyuubi's hatred using that form to set himself free.



Joshy85 said:
over powered flash ability? um, are you and me reading the same manga?  He was the freaking 4th Hokage.  He was labeled the Yellow Flash, there had to be a reason.  I would expect no less!





Yes. And now he has ANOTHER teleport tech he used when DR.Evilmadara threw the baby-naruto.   Want to bet that he can teleport Rasengans towards the enemy too?



obliviouz said:
my only words are: Naruto needs to learn his dad's flash technique....if he can do Rasengan at an early age faster than his dad did, whats stopping him from being the flash...that shit is godly



too much naruto/sasuke cross-path-destiny shit can be a little overbearing....we got it already from volume 1...





No no no no no. Naruto learning that speed tech would make him into Kira Yamato. He is already nonsenically pacisfistic and destiny driven. All we need now is himlearning teleport tech and start owning both sides of battlefield....
 
  • #22
Fai said:
but IT COULD have been so much more better.  



Imagine if it was done to flash out the characters we already knew(Sarutobi, Minato, Asuma, Kakashi, Zabuza, etc), with epic double spreads of many ninja trying to withold Kyuubi away from the town itself.



Characters using actual battle tactics, fighting with their smarts against this uber powerful and horrible thing beyond their imagination. A force of nature, a deity who did not need a reason to attack something and even if it had a reason, its beyond the comprehension of mortals. No Madara, no Kushina-tailed-host stuff.  Just ~20 chapters or so of epic flashback, giving character development to characters both dead and alive, showing off Minato's awesomeness(hinting at what Naruto could achieve on his own). 20 chapters full of double spreads, epic scenes and actually well drawn kyuubi.



Ara? Why would Zabuza be there to fend off the Kyuubi?

Why would a tailed beast's reason for wanting to attack something beyond the comprehension of mortals? Even if he did have a reason, it'd certainly be comprehensible, the kyuubi was a natural disaster, as you said before your nonsensical post of comprehension, he didn't need a reason to attack, unless it was being strung along by a certain Sharingan user that is, but seeing as the Kyuubi actually said that Sasuke's chakra was like Madara's, the guy who controlled him, that totally means it was someone else.

But if we had the "20 chapters of double spreads" you'd still complain that it was a cheesy back story and lots of chapters of nothing, naruto has a decent pace, it doesn't need 20 chapters to show some plot.
 
  • #23
Pointless complains, Sasuke only appeared in like 2 panels? Kushina survived so what? She's going to die very soon anyways.



Awesome chapter.



Shiken said:
Let's face it, Naruto is never going to be as cool as his dad. That would make too good of a manga.



Naruto was pretty cool when he first appeared in Sage mode. But he definitely has to learn his father's flash techniques!
 
  • #24
BakaKawaii said:
Shiken said:
Let's face it, Naruto is never going to be as cool as his dad. That would make too good of a manga.



Well he's well on his way, I just wish he'd get his cloak back and get his fox on :(



Fai said:


Lul? You do know this is Kishi we are talking about. Its obvious Naruto will fuse with Saucegay, form new rikkudou Sennin and disappear after the battle with HATRED.



Now, now, you should know better than mentioning fusion after your baby pulled that one first.

Better than lose, emo, lecture, train, win, lose, emo, lecture, train, win, but Aizen planned that so it must be awesome.



Anyway I didn't like this chapter as much as last week's, it had a lot of emotion but it just lacked something :/ mah well, next week should be good.





I am sorry, but Ill take Ichigos training sessions over naruto's any day. At least its full of meaningfull psychological stuff.



And at least Ichigo does NOT get trolled mid-fight right after his power up, by farting, turning kyuubi for no reason or reading a fucking book to the villain.





And bleach had fusion? since when?



Zanshiro does not count as he IS bassically Ichigo. Everyone in Ichigo's inner world is Ichigo himself, unlike certain other main character who can house a party in his head....







obliviouz said:
Fai said:
obliviouz said:
my only words are: Naruto needs to learn his dad's flash technique....if he can do Rasengan at an early age faster than his dad did, whats stopping him from being the flash...that shit is godly





No no no no no. Naruto learning that speed tech would make him into Kira Yamato. He is already nonsenically pacisfistic and destiny driven. All we need now is himlearning teleport tech and start owning both sides of battlefield....



well i know its too much to wish for, but after seeing how he got his dattebayo from his mom, its only fair that he get the flash from his dad



who knows, kishi may show us a future Naruto who probably excels over his dad by end of manga....this is shonen and what would be sick is us seeing a zero from start of manga to a hero who's techniques are pwnage incarnate



Going by interviews Kishimoto believes that Naruto is "too powerful", Sakura "is a true heroine" and Sauce is "underdeveloped".



And he inherited something from his Father already.... rasengan 8D





Now I just hope that Minato won't spam teleport+rasengans in his fights >_>  Kishi is going way overboard with one-tech-ninja stuff...pretty much every partII character relied on one trick only....
 
  • #25
Bonar said:
I can forgive fox's bad drawing, but I will never stand for doodles-rasengan. "Come on, let's draw a giant circle and fill it with random swirly lines!" - That's what it looked like...





Kishi is spending his all creativity(if he has any left) to design a new outfit for sasuke~ As well as ems eyes. He spent last 7 months or so doing that~
 
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