Bleach Chapter 619 Discussion

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  • #34
yhunata said:




Despite the fact that I aggree with your opinion and general assesment of bleach the following  arguements that you specifically provided are objectively wrong.




yhunata said:
Ichigo's hollow powers just randomly and conveniently appear only when he was in danger...... now what do we call this? Ah yes, an asspull.



Point A-After the Ichigo vs Kenpachi fight Yoruichi found Ichigo's mask and said that that thing protected him from Kenpachi's final attack. Then Ichigo stated that it also helped him in the fight against Renji but [that dude from the 4th squad] threw it away. Point B-It was the same mask that manifested on his face during the sessions with Urahara. Point C- During his debut Whitey-Hollow Ichigo-Zangetsu faced Ywach-Getsu and said "take care of him, soon his powers will be mine". The dots were all connected in the fight against Byakuya when Ichigo lost his sanity and the mask was matched to the personality of Whitey. Therefore there was sufficient foreshadowing.  




yhunata said:
Also, remember Grandfisher (I'm not sure, was that his name?). We were told that Grandfisher killed Masaki and he had proof of it. But wait..... actually, she was killed by Yhwach and not Grandfisher. What's going on? This here proves inconsistency in explanation.



Person A is about to murder Person B. Person B grabs a something to defend him/herself. You show up and disarm him/her from that something and walk away. You are now an accomplice in murder. Ywach never stated that he pulled the trigger against Masaki. He stripped  her of her powers and , just like in the above example, is now an accomplice. Grand Fischer was the murderer, that much hasn't changed.




yhunata said:
My talk of how Ichigo being half quincy being an asspull is no misunderstanding or misusing of a certain word.



Considering how everyone said Ywach=Zangetsu since his debut, I'd say that Ichigo being quincy was also foreshadowed. It still is irritating in the sense that Ichigo is pretty much everything and therefore adhereing to the stereotype that the shonen protagonist is the chosen one, but still not an asspull.
 
  • #35
Why do people think that Ywach has said the same thing as Aizen? Aizen said that he planned everything that happened to Ichigo. What Ywach was saying is that everything Ichigo did was to his benefit. (In this case the result being Ichigo end up killing the Soul king) But if you don't really care about the Manga it is easy to think they said the same thing.



But it will be interesting, if Ichigo's and Ywach's will is connected then Ywach should be able to control him in some ways. But Ichigo is not just a quincy so he shouldn't be able to control him, but then why mention it?
 
  • #36
Ishida out of nowhere it's been a while ^^

Wonder how long till Ishida becomes good again.

That Juha wannabe Aizen.
 
  • #37
WE DEM BOYZ about to go in XD



Ichigo hasn't even used Bankai yet :O



Archmedinian said:
I have no idea what is going on. Some panels are too blurry.

Read it on mangastream.
 
  • #38
I couldn't even tell what was happening in half of the panels...
 
  • #39
Monad said:
Next chapter:

Aizen: So, i guess you need my help. How to you think you can convince me to help you?

Kyoraku: Hmm...Well you see. Yuha Bach just claimed that Everything was his plan.

Aizen:That DAMN BASTARD! Is he trying to be a bigger troll than me? How dare he! He didn't even manage to stab Hinamori a few times and he thinks he can troll better?! THAT'S IT! i'm gonna kick his ass!

Kyoraku(whispering): Hehehehe...it really worked. Good, everything is going according to my plan, now.









Actually everything is Orihime's plan. What Aizen and Yuha Bach do not know is that all their plans were planned by Orihime.



hahaha your comment just made my night. your theory might actually be correct with bleach's way of doing things, you can never tell how much the author can troll us lol
 
  • #40
I have no idea what is going on. Some panels are too blurry.
 
  • #41
Int his thread: people incapable of understanding that Bach is using psychological warfare and does not mean half the shit he said





Hell it MAKES SENSE he would use that dialogue if he could see what Ichigo was doing because he would have seen AIZEN say it



Either way LOVED the group fight  - frantic, confusing and desperate. Very good choice for Kubo insteadof pairing them off again for a while.
 
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