Bleach Chapter 619 Discussion

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CashMoney said:
Holy shit this fight was confusinggrandy_UiD said:
I couldn't even tell what was happening in half of the panels...

JUHABACH said:
ichii_1 said:
yhunata said:
ichii_1 said:
Whitey is both his hollow and zanpakuto.

I'm sure anything that happens will be an asspull for you.



Where was this stated? And yes, anything that isn't properly explained and happens just so damn conveniently is an asspull.

Whitey was made by aizen and is similar to an asauchi, so he fused with Ichigo's shinigami powers and became zangetsu.

So he is both his zanpakuto and the source of his hollow power.

Nothing is an asspull unless you want it to be.

people like this are idiots

They don't understand what's a good about bleach

just leave them cry



Oh, so I'm an idiot because I don't like what you like and voice my complains about it? Well, ain't that a surprise. And I do understand what's good about Bleach. What's good about Bleach is how hilariously bad it actually is. Oh, by the way, this is coming from a person who used to hold this series in the highest regards, much higher than that of either of Naruto or One Piece.



Kanic said:
I think yhunata's criticism was more about the predictability of Bleach's basic formula and the word asspull was misused. Hopefully I'm right and this cleared up the misunderstanding and we can have a bit more contrsuctive criticism.



My talk of how Ichigo being half quincy being an asspull is no misunderstanding or misusing of a certain word. Ichigo's hollow powers just randomly and conveniently appear only when he was in danger...... now what do we call this? Ah yes, an asspull. Also, remember Grandfisher (I'm not sure, was that his name?). We were told that Grandfisher killed Masaki and he had proof of it. But wait..... actually, she was killed by Yhwach and not Grandfisher. What's going on? This here proves inconsistency in explanation. I'll continue this once my internet stops being an asshole (damn thing is being slower than a snail). I can't get confirmation from the manga.



ichii_1 said:
Nothing is an asspull unless you want it to be.



It goes the other way around. An asspull will be an asspull no matter how bad you don't want it to be one. But who cares, right? Certainly, you don't.

The fight was just conversation to try to confuse Ichigo, then Ishida appeared...

envy__ said:
G_Spark233 said:
Hahaha Juha pulled an Aizen in this chapter! God this is Naruto all over again with all these "masterminds" XD

at least naruto pulled it better unlike bleach that has no real explanation and i cant even see the connection between ywach and aizen. well at least not yet. my disappointment grows bigger as i read chapters. sigh


barely anything about Kaguya got explained properly



Besides that kind of stuff SHOULD be explained in the future and not just simply in the same chapter.

Excited to see Ishida but not much else beyond that.



Aizen vs Bach monologue showdown please thanks

Monad said:
Next chapter:

Aizen: So, i guess you need my help. How to you think you can convince me to help you?

Kyoraku: Hmm...Well you see. Yuha Bach just claimed that Everything was his plan.

Aizen:That DAMN BASTARD! Is he trying to be a bigger troll than me? How dare he! He didn't even manage to stab Hinamori a few times and he thinks he can troll better?! THAT'S IT! i'm gonna kick his ass!

Kyoraku(whispering): Hehehehe...it really worked. Good, everything is going according to my plan, now.









Actually everything is Orihime's plan. What Aizen and Yuha Bach do not know is that all their plans were planned by Orihime.



This +1





I mean, seriously, at this point as much as I want to see the ending of this series I have spent so many long years following- I'm really just not caring anymore.  This is ridiculous, Bach trying to be Aizen and saying "these eyes of mine" like ever other panel is annoying.  Hell, it was annoying when Aizen was being Aizen why the fuck do we need some generic Aizen rip off trying to be Aizen when we can just get Aizen back and let him be Aizen?



Seriously, all of this bullshit "ultimate" power that Bach goes on about and seems to be able to create and destroy and kill with the wave of a hand is fucking retarded kid shit that anyone with any talent for writing characters would know to avoid.  It's just bad writing.  This concept was one of the first I learned when I began my writing career 25 years ago.  This whole trolling for the paycheck business needs to stop, I used to love this series but I'm really losing interest now.  I don't know if I can stick through this kind of cheap troll shit much longer.  Bach has destroyed what little good was left in Bleach, I'm just hoping for some miraculous turnaround with something truly amazing.  Is epic too much to ask for after dealing with this crap for so long?

yhunata said:
Bullshit levels have spiked like hell. Ywach is secretly an Aizen-wannabe (it's as if Kubo thought we didn't realise this already), Yoruichi is suddenly shit, Ichigo is useless, his friends are even more useless, Ichigo's gonna get some convenient power-up outta nowhere and ichii_1 is gonna try to defend it to his death.

Just stop.

Lol you expected Yoruichi to even scratch his Majesty? XD lmfao XD

And Ichigo is currently being lectured by Yhwach about his softness, that's what the whole talk was about.

And the gang is currently on hold since against yhwach they can't win, they'll fight the RG (who lost on purpose I bet) or We Dem Boyz.



Bankai is a 10x multiplier, he has hollow and quincy powers, at best he'll stalemate for now, haschwalt, uryuu and yhwach is too much.

More training , yeahhh XD