Bleach Chapter 591 Discussion

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  • #26
Captain_Benz said:
Adilmeister said:
There's no way Toshiro is dead/will die at this point; Kubo can't afford to kill off a fan favourite at this point and risk ratings dropping even further. Mayuri being the badass he is will find a way to bring him back to normal, probably via killing Sternritter Z :)



Ulquiorra Cifer is dead and was a huge fan favorite, I think Bleach will be just fine if Hitsugaya passes on as well.

This^ just because Toshiro is a Shinigami doesn't mean he is safe.



BTW i read something interesting on Bleach Asylum.



Tekken13;249401 said:
Here's a post by Mila(OMF) about Hitsugaya and his role in the story that many may have missed.




This discussion is acting like Hitsugaya was introduced for a reason other than being a victim. It was very obvious during the early stages of the shinigami introductions that Hitsugaya was designed to be a victim.



Chapter 83: Hitsugaya is set up to witness the most obvious red herring scene in the history of storytelling: the hero warns the suspicious person he's onto him, setting himself up to be murdered before he can do anything, causing the hapless witness believe the suspicious person is the villain... only for the 'hero' to be the villain all along and the misdirection is designed to ensure the witness gets into trouble later on.



in interviews, Kubo said he hadn't expected Hitsugaya to become quite as popular as he ended up becoming but that it would have been a problem if Hitsugaya had not become popular at all. Given his first serious scene was this one, I think it's obvious why the lack of popularity would have been a problem: Hitsugaya was designed to be the captain that makes fans worried when he gets into trouble.



Most storytellers have a character in a story that they always crap on when they want fans to either worry about the fate of or to make fans really dislike the villain. For example, Joss Whedon was fairly shameless in admitting he was a fan of this - Willow (Buffy, the Vampire Slayer), Fred (Angel), Kaylee (Firefly), etc. Kubo is a traditionalist when it comes to storytelling: he has certain characters he uses to emphasise power levels or threat levels (Sado, Komamura, etc.) and characters he uses to emphasise villainy or to make fans worried (Hitsugaya, Hinamori - the latter being used to double-emphasise the trouble Hitsugaya gets into).



I have therefore never understood why parts of the fandom think Hitsugaya's somehow got fan-immunity. His purpose in the storyline is to end up in situations that upset fans.
 
  • #27
Hoooly moooly. This chapter.



So Hitsugaya's a zombie now? I can live with that.

I'm just hoping Giselle won't turn Kenpachi into a zombie.
 
  • #28
cloud2313 said:
Nooo!! Shiro-chan is dead?? Which chapter did Rangiku, kira, and vizords die?



Tite Kubo... I hate you for killing so many characters.

Rest assured only Kensei and Rose have been confirmed to be dead! You can hold onto that tiny shred of hope...
 
  • #29
When I think about it and Toshiro is really dead then Kubo wants to end Bleach in a serious matter with actual casualties on both sides. If he follows that will through this arc I think we can expect that Kensei and Rose are dead too. Maybe its obvious, but I didn't expect that from Bleach so mark me surprised.
 
  • #30
Wow WTF! What happened to Hitsugaya? Haven't seen him in a while and suddenly he appears like this.
 
  • #31
Isn't Bambietta just too weak now???



Heck, Komamura sacrificing himself to beat her yet here she so easily defeated like that. Is it because this zombies ability doesn't get 100% of their prime??
 
  • #32
Jordan_X said:
astrozombie84 said:
Scione said:
You kids need to pay attention.  Tōshirō Hitsugaya isn't dead. To become a Zombie, Quincy has to die first. But for a Shinigami to become a Zombie, all he needs to do is to touch the blood of that man girl. Shinigami doesn't have to die to become a zombie.



your obviously not paying attention either








Ikkaku got blood on him and he isnt a zombie.

if it doesn't work on Ikkaku then it sure as hell isnt gonna work on toshiro.



unless he is either dead or seriously injured.

of course it may take more time to take effect because of ikkaku's power level.



however until ikkaku turns zombie im going to assume that giselle is overestimating her power a bit, and that toshiro is either dead or was fatally wounded when he turned zombie.



If you look back at the manga, Ikkaku got Bambietta's blood on him - not Giselle's. There's nothing that says that the blood of someone who was turned into a zombie by Giselle would have the same properties.



Read the beginning of 554 again if you want to see what happened to Toshirou.



uhhh im not gonna get into this again! just read my previous post.
 
  • #33
^

Charlotte was one of the top members of Baraggan's fraction and we know that Baraggan>>>>>Bambi, so Charlotte>>Bambi plus the fact quincy are weak to hollows :O
 
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