Bleach Chapter 540 Discussion

SleepnDreamn said:
http://www.mangareader.net/94-567-12/bleach/chapter-113.html

This is crazy. Did Kubo plan it all so long ago? Look at Ichigo reiatsu - it's the hollow mask.



There was this conversation in inner world where the old man and white had a talk about Ichigo. White asked the old man to train him well O.o



http://www.mangareader.net/94-566-2/bleach/chapter-112.html





It happened as early as in the first fight with Kenpachi.





Do I get it right?



Ichigo shinigami and hollow powers are what Aizen was working on all this time. Perfect Fusion of Shinigami and Hollow.

What Aizen lacked since the early experiments on shinigami and on Shinji team is the Quincy element. Every experiment on fusing shinigami and hollow Aizen did ended with soul suicide. Shinji and other visards only survived cause Urahara used Hougyoku on them - it granted him the wish to prevent the shinigami from dying. Visards could also be saved just by the fake body he got them. Whatever it's not important.



Since the early time White (Ichigo Shinigami and Hollow inheritance) were going for Ichigo life - I think he was young and wild at that time maybe due to Ichigo own problems like blaming himself of mother death or inability to save everyone (or need to save everyone). White didn't want a pussy for a master.



What prevented White from devouring Ichigo soul and causing soul suicide is Quincy element inherited from his mother.

Old man "Zangetsu" looks like young Bach cause all Pure blood Quincy where somehow related to Bach himself. Not as close as grandfather but more like 800 - 2000? years old ancestor.



I have no idea what or who is young "Zangetsu". Super young Bach or Ichigo original pure quincy power void of Bach interference. Maybe at one point White Zangetsu had a fight with Old Man Zangetsu and finally subjugated him (before the whole training with the visards or maybe near the last fight with Grimmjow and Ulquiorra. Inoue interference with healing might also had effect on Ichigo balance of power.



that's it for now :D

<_< I had over month break from Bleach and everything is a shocking news to me...



Something dawned on me before i read this and now I'm even more sure. When Ichigo got his zanpaktou destroyed while fighting Kenpachi. He went to his inner world to try and get his zanpaktou back, but the old man who called himself Zangetsu never pulled out the blade himself he used white to fight for him. Just let that sink in. The fake-zangetsu, as we now know, could not materialize a zanpaktou (since he is Ichigos quincy powers) and had to use the real Zangetsu to train Ichigo.

Kanorin said:
..what?This.



Also: meh.

Way to Kubo, that was actually an awesome plot twist! Looks like he's been taking lessons from M. Night Shamamalama-kun

ssjokg said:
this chapter made Naruto's look like a great one.



Seriously?I thought of that plot twist before but I REALLY hoped that it wont happen.





Bold part:Why are you mentioning a filler anime arc?



because this will mean that the final arc will not be animated or will have alot of changes in it.

antonnn said:
So it turned out a bunch of people mentioning the similarity in look between Yhwach and Zangetsu turned out to be right. I(and probably others too) also was right in guessing Zangetsu was manifested or at least helped along by the Quincy powers Ichigo never knew he had and that the new Asauchi would be his real sword. I like the way this is going!



Naruto is turning into a piece of shit but I'm glad Bleach is still rockin'!



Yeah i guessed that his zan wasnt actually a zan, but his quincy side manifesting a weapon.  I cant find the post atm, but i think i provided some decent evidence for my theory, such as rukia not having a sword anymore after he was made into a shinigami, and he manifested his sword subconsciously, as he would associate shinigami with the katana. He only was able to release the zan after he was told about it, etc.

Makes sense he could release it because quincy weapons change shape as they grow. It also might be the reason his bankai increases his speed, instead of being a nonswordtype weapon itself.



Awesome chapter.

if zangetsu isn't the true form of his zanpakuto , then why the hell did ichigo had to fight him to get the bankai ? and why couldn't he use bankai when zangetsu was released from him by muramasa .... and now ichigo has quincy, fullbring ,soul reaper and hollow powers and yet his quincy power is the one in charge.. damn it now we have to wait till next chapter to hear the story from zangetsu.

Jim_Heart said:
I knew it that Bleach has one of the most epic plot in manga history ...

fuck to people who keep calling Bleach after Aizen VS Final Getsuga Tenshou was only new idea that Kubo got for make this manga longer, Kubo Tite had been scheming all of this from the beginning story please ...



so true

So Zangetsu is actually the Quincy leader from 1000 years ago? Why, that was actually a pretty good plot twist.