Bleach Chapter 529 Discussion

Wow this chapter has sooooooo many plot holes!



Ok so isshin was a shinigami and masaki was a quincy. If its a blood related thing, he was born a Quincygami (as Anton so eloquently put it). When he became a shinigami by absorbing rukias power (or more like she forced it into him when she stabbed his heart - either way, both quincy and shinigami absorb reiatsu. She states as much when she pops up after the ss arc), he appears with a zanpakutou. Now we could say it was rukias and he changed it, but it already had her soul inside it. I dont think it wouldve been very happy about another soul trying to force its way in. My theory goes that his quincy abilities let him make a sword out of nothing. Because he had saw her zanpakutou, he subconsciously created a sword (as we've seen, they dont only use bows). But his shinigami half let him evolve it into shikai etc. Thats why Oetsu remarked that he was aware of every asauchi, and they couldnt awaken their zanpakutou without asauchi. But implies ichigo did (which supports my sword creation theory. It wasnt an asauchi, but still a zanpakutou) Which is why he failed the test. He has to go back to his roots (as a quincygami) and rediscover how to get his weapon back.



Isshin in the flashback killed my life. I havne't laughed that hard in a long time. No wonder rangiku is now so lazy. ahhaha what a bad influence. And the way he said "nice!" with such a serious face ahahhahahaha. So he's a shiba. Makes sense now why he looks like Kaien. Can't wait for ichigo to discover the fact hes related to ganju either haha.



As for people not noticing Isshin or who he was, im guessing they were all told to be quiet about it. Either that or he hid himself really well. I cant recall if they ever bumped into him or saw him, but if they did, they ignored it for a reason. The same way the chick from the last chapter pretended she couldnt see isshin. If she can see the badge, she can see shinigami. Always hoped shed play a bigger role.



And whoever complained about tosen using a computer because uve never seen it before. Are you an idiot? Have you ever seen any of them brushing their teeth? Just because you havent seen something doesnt mean it cant or doesnt happen.



Yay return of aizen :D

Scheherazade1007 said:
Slartey said:
But Toushiro became a shinigami after Rukia and Renji did so Rukia should remember Isshin and have noticed that he was Ichigo's dad, seeing as she did live with him.



Sorry but when was this ever stated?

Age doesn't matter in Bleach, one can look much younger but have been here much longer.

Toushiro joined the gotei 13 much before Rukia and Renji iirc.

Momo went to the shinigami academy before Hitsugaya, and Momo was in the same school group as Renji.  Even being in the school, they should of been educated about the important people including the big families.

For me it felt like the chapter was too short :c

j0x said:
rzoks said:


I highly doubt that Juha Bach is Ichigo's father. If anything, id say that Juha Bach was the father of Ichigo's mother. How could you doubt Isshin being Ichigo's father? For starters, Isshin and Ichigo both share the Getsuga Tenshou, and correct me if im wrong but im pretty sure that it was mentioned somewhere that Getsuga Tenshou was a family technique, passed down in genes.

Also, i doubt that the young mother of Ichigo would do "that" with a thousand year old man such as Juha. xD



because Juha Bach can absorb abilities like Bankai so its not impossible for Ichigo to unconsciously absorb the bankai of Isshin, and btw the first few chapters of Bleach also mentions that Ichigo absorbs the shinigami powers of Rukia so it was hinted long ago that Ichigo is a Quincy



i guess you people need more confirmation that Ichigo is a Quincy, i guess the WHOLE chapter 514 of Bleach is not yet enough confirmation, try reading MangaStream version of that chapter too since its more clearer, but ye if you still cannot believe it then hopefully in a few more chapters it will be revealed again with more concrete evidences





It's not his fucking son dude!! Geezz, how oblivious can you be for Christ sakes. Ichigo looks like Kaien that was a Shipa and Isshin is a Shipa. To you see the obvious connection yet? And yes his a quincy because of his mother not because of  Bach.

If he father was Bach then he will be full Quincy not a hybrid and he would just be like any other Quincy. He called him son because he has Quincy blood and he probably sees himself as the father of all Quincies. That's why he called him son, not because it's his actual son.

And Bach doesn't steal abilities. The bankai stealing thing is some kind of device he made is not an ability. Is that medallion thing.  



Marow said:





Aizen does it again.



Lol, i expect nothing less from Aizen.

Nidhoeggr said:
Copied this from another forum, to show just a few of the questions (and knowing Kubo: Potential plot holes) this chapter created:



a) How did he get a flesh and blood body? Is that a gigai or what? Benefit of the doubt, it's a reiatsu-concealing gigai.

b) How did he get a degree to practice medicine?

c) How does no one find it suspicious that he doesn't seem to have any family on Earth? ("Daddy, do you have a daddy? Tell me about grandpa!" "Uhhhhh...")

d) Why doesn't anybody seem to care that Isshin is just bumming around doing nothing when there are souls to be saved? Why doesn't Isshin care?

e) Why did Isshin see fit to keep all three of his children in the dark about both of their extraordinary heritages, especially after Hollows began showing up? Why not train them so they can defend themselves if you want to sit on your ass all day?

f) Why wasn't Masaki able to fend off a fairly weak Hollow? Was it because she didn't want to exterminate a soul anymore?

g) What did SS think whenever Aizen, Gin and Tousen went absent like that? Did they really not have any handle on what was going on in HM at all?



Not to mention that apprently nobody remembers Isshin, which is strange especially for Rangiku.

I hate Kubo for his lazy storytelling.



How about waiting for the explanations to end before you ask such questions?

And g) is a stupid question. So is C) and d).

BlackSCREEN said:
j0x said:
bonifide said:
I wonder if Isshin is really his dad.



but chapter 514 alredy revealed that Juha Bach is the real father of Ichigo

Juha Bach is not Ichigo's father....that "son" it was like when your grandpa tell you.....,son.(in US it's normal)





dude even MangaStream translated in the end of chapter 514 the words "THE SHOCKING TRUTH!!!" confirmation on the below spoiler

antonnn said:


Lol the guy who asked all that needs to lighten up. Nothing is perfect, he needs to stop nickpicking. Sheesh.



Nothing is perfect, but a few things come close to it. If a story can be nitpicked that easily it is not the fault of the ones who finds the mistakes, but of the one who amde them in the first place.



Still, I will be patient. Kubo's pace is slow so it'll probably take a few chapter till this is all explained although I doubt most of it will be logical.



Monad said:




How about waiting for the explanations to end before you ask such questions?

And g) is a stupid question. So is C) and d).



Question number C sounds logical to me. Excuses like "they died in a car accident" can explain only so much when there is no proof that grandparents on isshin's side existed.

So he was the former squad 10 captain.



Also ALLL ACCORDING TO PLAN!

penguindrum264 said:
I wonder how Kubo will explain the existence of Ichigo's zanpakuto.

It's probably just a replica or part of Isshin's zanpakuto or he formed his own sword based on the spiritual pressure around him(like the people he encountered) and inside him(what he was born with and what Rukia gave him).



Ichigo kept that last fragment of sword he got from Rukia power. Maybe that was it? Weak fraction of Rukia's Asauchi.