Bleach Chapter 512 Discussion

  • #50
Sickly_Grin said:
No dude, you're the one being confused here. The guy in pages 4/5 Akon and Shaz Domino are talking to IS NOT Ichigo. Remember, he lost contact with Akon many chapters ago. His breaking from the cage has a completely different history we're still not aware of. Ichigo appeared elsewhere, not at the Research and Development room.



Yeah they lost contact, but Akon knew Ichigo was trapped somewhere in Garganta. Who else would Akon be trying to create an exit/entrance for? Akon says, "Actually, I wanted to open it from here a bit earlier but... it wouldn't... work." It seems pretty apparent to me that he is talking about the cage Ichigo was trapped in and opening it from the exit by Senkai Gate, which is where Ichigo was heading before getting trapped, instead of the R&D Headquarters from which he fled. Contact would be reestablished if the cage had been broken. You can see the shards flying around Akon on page 2. So clearly he has broken some sort of wall/barrier. I assume the cube is some sort of barrier/room the team from R&D created to work on opening the exit. I believe Ichigo came through the hole Akon created, killed Shaz, and in his attack destroyed that cube/room. And R&D's objective was to get Ichigo to SS. So, Fai's assessment seems the most likely to me.
 
  • #51
LunyRed said:
A whole chapter dedicated to Ichigo's entrance. :S



It was still a good chapter but now I gotta wait for another week to see them fight!! D:

Dream on man. Next chapter is to exchange pleasantries!



The one after that is another flashback...
 
  • #52
Ice_Captain said:
Also, I don't belive that Ichigo is capable to kill HUMAN so straight.What about Ginjo? And don't give me any "Oh well he was part Shinigami and uh" excuse, he was at least human as Ichigo.



Actually I'm still scratching my head over that one since no one seemed to raise an eyebrow when he suddenly killed someone for the first time (At least consciously.)
 
  • #53
Fai said:

Marhuto said:
So nothing really happened here... just the arrival of Ichigo.



Yep.

Just that...



If we do not count:

- Death of akon by puppeteer sternritter's hand

- Death oh  puppeteer sternritter by Ichigo's hand.

- confirmation that Renji and rukia are (somewhat) OK.

- Byakuya's deathbed monologue to Ichigo that parallels Gin's and showcases just how much Ichigo and Byakuya actually came to respect each other, considering how they started, as well as confirmation that Byakuya did grow to care for Renji.

- Showcasing Ichigo's determiantion and adding built up to the upcoming chapters - the fact that this is one of the few times when Ichigo is in plain calm fury



If this was Narutoe, Juha would have already used Yamaji's bankai to resurrect every dead shinigami, so manga could get 100+ pointless "another challenger appears" filler chapters that destroy the already dead character personalities.



marchefka said:
Archnemesis said:


Also, the page with all the shinigami - are they sweating from the recent release of Yamaji's bankai or are is it raining?

It's raining.

^ this.



Yamamoto's bankai heated up entire SS, vaporizing water and liquids.

As bankai got deactivated, the temperature is dropping again and the vaporized water is turning to rain.





Sickly_Grin said:


No man, I don't think that's it. Ichigo's entrance happened elsewhere, above Juha Bach. On page 5, first panel of the Mangapanda scanlation you can clearly see a hole in the sky with a guy standing there, dressed in white. That's not Ichigo. You can see in page 4, fourth panel the tips of the Quincy knives on Akon's back and in page 5 you can clearly see him collapsing. So, the guy in the hole is not Akon either.



http://i998.mangareader.net/bleach/512/bleach-3647791.jpg

http://i995.mangareader.net/bleach/512/bleach-3647793.jpg



My guess that either the Mystery Swordsman or a member of the Zero Division.



Let me simplify it for you:

http://i998.mangareader.net/bleach/512/bleach-3647791.jpg

Top Panel - The artistic effect of cage breaking from Ichigo's POV

Panel below that - Ichigo POV - Ichigo sees SS sky.

Panels below that -  ICHIGO POV - Akon(you can even see arrows in the back, which implies that he kept trying to open the cage even as he was getting slaughtered) and his last words



http://i995.mangareader.net/bleach/512/bleach-3647793.jpg

Top panel - Ichigo's POV - he looks at the person further away looking through another hole into the R&D's cube int he sky.

Panel below that - Ichigo POV - he looks closer at the person

Bottom panel - Ichigo blitzing puppeteer' sternritter's face with a sword(you can see outward movement lines implying Ichigo closing  in on his face and inward movement lines, implying Ichigo's sword moving from Ichigo towards puppeteer sternritter)



THE NEXT PAGE - you see the explosion from the end of last chapter, exploding the VERY SAME cube-shaped place in the sky that Ichigo burst out of and Bach looking behind and up towards it.



NEXT PAGE - everyone's reactions to that explosion.



NEXT PAGE - you see Ichigo standing on air, with the pieces of the cube fallinga round him and the dust from the explosion/attack he did clearing out.



NEXT PAGE - as the dust and steam is clearing out, he looks/senses Rukia and Renji(the same way he did with his sisters in the FKT final battle) and then moves at insane speed to Byakuya to have that talk.



man thanks every chapter for explaining  to people visual facts. i sometime feel like correcting ppl but you have always already have. which is great haha
 
  • #54
Really that's it?! wtf!!!!!!!!! i wanted more... oh well it was somewhat of a good chapter.
 
  • #55
ermah... the suspense is killing me. waits a whole week to see this chapter. well nice to know that byakuya isnt dead. but still.. ARGHHHHH... time to wait a whole 'nother week... :ooo
 
  • #57
Lots of question has been thrown again and some questions may be answered in the next chapters. What was happening in the first 3 pages? Who was that guy? Byakuya monologue, looks like Kubo is going to kill him after-all. Ichigo against Bach, some things are gonna be explained next chapter? Whatever is happening everything is a build-up for the next chapters.



On Ichigo's matter, his appearance made me remember the conversation with Isshin and Urahara about ruining his future. Next chapters are looking really promising.
 
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