Bleach Chapter 508 Discussion

No really if Yamamoto was this powerful why could not defeat Aizen?  and why the hell were soul society screaming for Ichigo a few chapters ago when they have Yamamoto.



they fought in that fake karakura town thing where there was no real worry or hazard for him to use his bankai but he didn't use it, but he's willing to risk all of soul society to use it against Bach?



this makes no sense at all.



other than the fact the power level scale is screwed up the fight so far is awesome and the bankai is epicly badass.

Zhou said:
Kanic said:
Not all mangas need to be like that, and you can't really demand that all mangakas must have the same tendencies. In other words some battles are tactical others are all-out brawls(otherwise known as DBZ style battles). Powerups are merely sth to keep you interested throughout the whole battle.

Yeah and both Aizen and Urahara are clearly tacticians.



I never mentioned either name. I don't get you. My point was that from the get-go Bleach promised sword-clash --ing battles. I see no point at ch.508 demanding a tactic-battle. Tactic-battles are cool and all but there is a limit to how much one can demand from a creator/author. One can demand sth like "a more reasonable battle system" where one isn't OP and the other can't even touch him but at the same time you can't really demand "smarter-battles" cuz this might as well be beyond the capabilities of the author.



Aldo512 said:
So, not that Yamamoto's zombie army thing isn't unbelievable awesome or anything, but why hasn't Bach at least tried to stop him? What is the point of giving the villains the power to steal Bankai if it won't be actually used when it matters?



Kanic said:
@Above two posts.



We've been through that countless times over the past chapters. Quince and Shinigami isn't some kind of hereditary ability, just like how Ishida learned how to be a Quincy, just like how the souls in Soul Society enter the army and learn how to be a Shinigami. Therefore learning both is feasible, and the fact that he was wielding a Zanpakutou (him AND other people of his organisation) pretty much verifies it.We have no evidence that what he was using actually is a Zanpakutou. So far, it just seems like a regular sword.



No, but we have many hints that Juha used to be a Shinigami and he turned a traitor. Also it would be pointless to assume that he was carrying a spiritual object in a sword-shape and not assume that it's a zanpakutou.

^ lolaizenaistactician

InfiniteDestiny said:
Yamamoto is a BOSS; that said tho its gonna be freaken embarrassing if he loses like many predict after all this; i mean he is acting cocky also (for good reason but still) so if he actually loses this....



That said tho i can't see this dude as the Final Boss, there has got to be someone higher and stronger; he looked freaken scared this chapter.



I am guessing Bach is the mid-boss for Ichigo to beat, as the whole Quincy genocide backstory is revealed. Then i guess Royal Guards come down, soul king decides that SS is "incompetent" and orders them to purge everything(that or Royal guards are actually prison guards for Soul King and Quincies worship Soul King and want to free him). Considering the theme of Quincies so far I am guessing that Soul King itself is some sort of abomination that "started" the universe and wants to become one with it again and Quincies are trying to release it.

Can't wait for North!

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                        Awesome chapter, pity that it didn't last long enough. Yamamoto is a beast. I wonder what Zanka no Tachi North will be like. How the hell will you defeat this monster Bach?

I really don't trust that guy who keeps hanging around Juhabach, I really think that he has hidden intentions and he's not really loyal to Juhabach, and all that loyal stuff is just a load of crap. I'm pretty sure Juhabach is going to die early on, and that that dude is going to be some evil baddy.



On another note: What has happened to Ichigo and Kisuke? I haven't seen them in 7 weeks!

Han-yuu said:
Kanic said:
^Yes they would have to be in spirit form. But then again the only way to go into SS is to go through the gate that automatically makes you spirit see?

Enter in SS and get zanpaktou. Once they will be back to real world? How would they maintain their form? Back to human or both? OR it's not possible to get one using Reishihenkanki?

If I remember correctly, it usually takes years, and sometimes decades of training for people with no history of shinigamis in their blood-line. If they were to try to do that, when they return, their bodies may too old, dead/decomposed, or they won't be needed anymore.



The only reason the people of soul society look young is because those who don't know how to control their reiatsu are unable to grow and get hungry nor burn energy. Even those who do have control of their reiatsu move extremely slow through the aging process. That's why some characters look young despite their old age. This does not slow down the process of time in the real world and the aging of their bodies.