Bleach Chapter 503 Discussion

  • #18
Hyoroemon said:
So, Kenpachi just slashed 3 Star Captains? I mean, they're all on par with those that Ichigo fought before isn't it?



Next week, we will see that mustache-man's Bankai.I don't think Ichigo had problems with that guy, did he? His fight was prolonged so that we/he/Urahara could understand the Quincy's powers more. When Ichigo went Bankai the battle was totally one-sided, then Kirge pulled that cage out and imprisoned Ichigo. Till now we know nothing about that cage and why Ichigo can't get away from it (there must be something special about it), but that doesn't erase the fact that Ichigo was way stronger than Kirge. Even Byakuya, why did he lose? The captains are too strong they could eliminate the Quincy easily with Bankai (If not then why are the Quincy afraid of Bankai then?), but the power that makes them 10 times stronger, Bankai, is taken away from them, and the normal soldiers + vice captains can't do a thing either way, their enemy are captain-leveled. Kenpachi was and is one of the most powerful captains in SS and he has no Bankai, so defeating 3 Quincy is somehow reasonable. Anyway we'll probably learn why Kenpachi is this strong in this arc, as I said before in this thread Kubo mentioned he'll explain things about him.
 
  • #20
PerfecShawn said:
Han-yuu said:
If Yamamoto spiritual pressure can't break Kyoka Suigetsu, how would Kenpachi do that? not to mention is it even possible with just high level Riatsu? Also don't forget kenpachi had pretty hard time against fifth espada. Aizen was the boss. They didn't confront each other, it's not like an arrogant guy like Aizen would afraid of anyone.



Kenpachi was taking on the Espada with the strongest Hierro.

What you mean strongest Hierro? Okay. just checked wikia page.



I know nnoitra was pretty tough but even if he was strongest espada. that still doesn't answer my question. Is it even possible to break kyoka suigetsu with strong riatsu?



Maddo_scientisto said:
The way I understood it he fought three stern ritter but in 1v1 situations, not like the three jumped at him at the same time =/.

Yeah. That certainly is convenient than fight all at once. Still that's not my argument but beating three without a sweat. That's my real point. it looks like he one-shotted all of them just like he did to that mustache fullbringer or king bardley. Was three of them so weak or Kenpachi become so strong. We will learn in this arc.



Tell you the truth i seriously don't much care about explanation. If it's good then great but even if it's really cheap one, doesn't matter. I already have my opinion which i stated in many topics, so it won't make much difference. I just want to see his fight even if he go and beat "his majesty". Actually i would love to see that. (that's not going to happen though) But if Kenpachi get some good number of chapters. I will be happy. Right now he defeated three off-screen. someone already said in this topic. It's "Show don't tell" situation. Ichigo got many chapters against unknown nazi guy. Kenpachi deserve it too.
 
  • #21
Candor said:
quadnia said:
Aren't these chapters getting less detailed, and less story.....

Bad points aside, Kenpachi bit was pretty cool but thats about it... i wonder what CRAZY AND RANDOM power up is gonna happen to the shinigami that makes them kill everyone.... Bleach is starting to get a bit shit....Here are Kubo's plans for this arc (spoilers). I thought you might be interested.



Hmm each arc/thing kubo want's to do is pretty interesting and sounds pretty cool but i just hope his chapters will become more detailed and longer if not detailed...
 
  • #22
renders said:
Cool chapter,people were complaining the story was moving too slow,now they're complaining it's too fast.F*ck you allSometimes they complain there's no plot, sometimes they complain there's no action, people just love complaining.
 
  • #23
All that is happening now is part of the plan - Aizen
 
  • #24
Maddo_scientisto said:
Lord_isnan2009 said:
Maddo_scientisto said:
flameclaw100 said:
...Did no one notice on page 10, when Ichigo yells: "I will protect you!" you can clearly see the outlined mark on the left side of his face that when first glance looks like blood, but actually it's like the markings on his hollow mask. Not only that, but on the square when he says: "I will..." you can see the mark starting to outline. Ichigo's gonna go hollow!



He can't.

Also there's no sign of hollow mask anywhere, Ichigo's face is covered in blood and he's hitting with all his strengh on a white barrier/barrier of light.

If you look on page 9 you obviously see that it's part of his dark getsuga tenshou's blast hitting on the barrier with bit of both flying away because of the pressure.Actually if you look on that same page, there is no blood on his face.  For that much blood to come down the left side of his face in that perfect a pattern, resembling his hollow mask.  There also is no proof that he can't use hollow powers anymore.  And as with his zanpakuto, his hollow powers could have also been modified in some manner.  We'll just have to wait and see what exactly has happened.



http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/503/9



On the pannel where Ichigo say 'break' (The only one you can see a bit of his face) it pretty much look like he got blood under his left eye. Why did that blood/stain/mark disapeared on the first few pannel of page 10? I have no idea but it seem more like an consistency mistake.



Ichigo should be able to use hollow power, I pretty much agree with that since it's been supporting what I've always said but he shouldn't be able to obtain a power boost by using Hollow attributes (Such as the mask or the full transformation).



Why is that?

It's because he fused his power together which has been stated.



Bored of saying this over and over so I'll just make it sound much dumber so that some people can maybe understand.



Think about Ichigo situation before dangai as this.

Ichigo's shinigami power = orange juice

Ichigo's hollow power = apple juice

Drinking the juice = using his power



Before dangai training Ichigo could drink any juice he wanted  (even though he was obsseded with orange juice). Sometime he drank a bit of apple juice as well which increased his power even more.



Ichigo now put the orange juice and the apple juice together, he shaked them up until they were evenly mixed so he can't drink only orange juice or apple juice anymore.

The moment he drink anything, he'll have drink both orange juice and apple juice in the process.



What you people are saying is that in such situation Ichigo had still been separating the orange juice from the apple juice and continued to stick with orange juice and that now he could just drink some apple juice to get more powerfull and get out of his pinch.

But that can't happen, he can't separate orange juice from the apple juice. When he drink something, he drink the mixed juice.

The only thing he can do is drink more of that juice.



Best explanation I ever did, boy I'm tired.

No there's no sexual inuendo in this.So your idea is that he has both powers, but he can bring them out anymore as separate units.  Which explains the Black Getsuga, since for whatever reason they decided that it was the hollow Ichigo's attack, and since Zangetsu asserted that he and the hollow were one, that makes sense.  But by that logic, it would also be a reasonable idea to say that id he chugged that "mixed juice", the qualities of a hollow, such as a mask could reemerge.
 
  • #25
Han-yuu said:
]After all these are all dangai level opponents, and boss should be even higher level.

If there were at least one dangai level opponent, he would have solo'd every gotei captain at the same time by himself and without resorting to any special attack.



I mean even Monster Aizen who is leauges above shikai Yama had nothing on Dangai Ichigo in terms of stats and only prevailed (before being sealed by Urahara) due to immortality.
 
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