Bleach Chapter 487 Discussion
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- #53
I don't mind Harribel fraccion coming back since I like the idea of them creating Allon. He was pretty fun ^^. It all might be plot related since Ichigo might be too far from the action.
Would be fun if it was HM resistance won over the VR pawns and Ichigo came for nothing. Then they would work plan on saving Harribel or reinforcing HM.
Harrible didn't loose to those silly hat ppl. She lost to that VR boss.
Harribel had time to do ressurecion or knew enemy power was too great for her basic form ordered everyone and her fraccion to flee / hide and took the fight herself.
VR boss might not be as strong as he seems. Arrancars he killed were probably Hollows (since Ivan had no idea what arrancar is or he just considered himself better than them). For a Hollow becoming Arrancar or getting its power from VR (they might be Magic Hunters that Quincy teachings come from) might be a different evolution patch. One seals his power into sword and the other goes for cross.
Ichigo does have hero complex or likes to help people (if they pay). Even without his powers he went after guy who stole Ginjo bag. Without his powers Ichigo was selling himself to any club at school to do stuff for them. Who had Ichigo was the winner probably.
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- #55
SleepnDreamn said:
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This post could not be more right even if it tried.
Halibel has always been portrayed as someone who has deep care for her subordinates. She most likely ordered them to run while she took on the enemy.
Actually I see Ichigo freeing some, including his goal, meeting up and joining up with Grimjowl and them all having to run the hell away from the place to real world as the big guns of VR appear, thus Kubo would build up VR as a real threat.
Then all those arrancar have to sit around in Ichigo's house. The shinigami kid returns. wtf and comedy galore for a while to relieve the tension.
And yeh. Ichigo's power represents that(as Chad said) and it all began when he could not save his mother. When he was powerless. Since then he has been overcompensating to feel better.
I forgot that Ichigo went to help Chad when he was in trouble. Not sure if they were friends back then, but Ichigo went to fight for Chad and his pendant.
Aizen coming back to the game on Ichigo side might come true. If Hougyoku would reactivate and accept Aizen once more he would be a great help for Ichigo and Shinigami versus VR and their boss. Aizen would be perfect ally since he might also be immune to Bankai stealing.
Do you think that VonderReich leader is the Soul King? He looks way to barbaric to me, unfit to rule over so many. What if VR are ancient Magic Hunters, creators of Quincy teachings to humans. They were the reason why Shinigami went to war with Quincy.
After War they went into hiding, sealed themselves in an area like garganta and used their reiatsu to create castle and everything else? Back in HM arc it was easy for Ishida to travel in Garganta space. We also see VR boss sitting on a throne that crumbles into dust when he goes to see Harribel (steps to her chamber are being created). It does look like Soul Society but is very simple and limited.
VonderReich realm and Soul Society are probably build of the same material. Its just that SS is far bigger and more complex.
Maybe VonderReich were created by Soul King to govern over souls. At some point those souls found power withing themselves and that is how Shinigami were born. Soul King saw nothing wrong about them and Soul Society was created as their realm. Then Hollows came to existence and Soul King made Hueco Mundo for them. Maybe then VonderReich left for human world and gave Quincy teaching to able humans (or maybe it was Soul King himself that ordered VR to do so).
World was in balance. Humans had power to kill hollows, Soul Society had power to save hollows and plus souls. Hollows had hunger for souls but they had also chance to evolve into higher forms. To me it seems like Shinigami got the most from Soul King, then were humans blessed with power from VonderReich and Hollows got the worst leftovers but had potential to surpass Shinigami.
Ages later Soul Society saw humans killing hollows as wrong and war broke out.
That alerted Soul King and VonderReich or maybe it was Urahara and Aizen that angered Soul King by taking some his essence to create Hougyoku. Since Shinigami were too strong and many it took time to gain needed power to counter them (Bankai Sealing device). I got my imagination running xD
My brain is about to explode Q_Q
- #56
So what's new? Ichigo is just randomly saving EVERYONE. Like, seriously, even Naruto wouldn't save Akatsuki members (at least I hope so...), and I thought that Ichigo is smarter than him... It looks like he just want to make up for 1,5 year when he haven't got any powers :/
Ichigo has a hero complex. FB arc explained that that much. AT least partially what is happening has to do with Ichigo and Ichigo, as far as we know his character, is a meddler. He is not someone to overlook stuff for the big picture. He gets the big picture he just does not care about it and takes priorities in his own way.
AND ITS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.
The narutoe guys are criminals.
The beings Ichigo is saving are JUST A FOREIGN COUNTRY.
Those beings VR are hunting and killing are the self-conscious population of hueco mundo. IDEOLOGIES might not fit Ichigo, but Ichigo can not overlook that. Especially considering he has a lot of insight into that and essentially part of him was part of HM.
Zhou said:
Guys, you remember that Yammy was still alive, hopefully we will him soon and Grimmjow of course. It actually feels nice to see familiar faces despite the question why some of them didn't die but this will be so huge, I'm all excited again.
Yammi is dead.
Njs_Fluffy said:
Wtf? Didn't Yamamoto burn them to a crisp? Oh well, I hope we get to see Grimmjow soon :D
BURN, not kill. He clearly exclaimed that he is not going to kill him but teach them a lesson. We know they all were alive.
Orihime then Healed halibel and her fraccion and they were appointed to rule over HM with allowing Mayuri to have their labs there.
- #57
At least it's nice to see some old faces, and I really hope we get to see Urahara in action, and of course I'm hoping for the return of Grimmjow as well.
Still, the timing was really weird, and the attempts at humor were too easy... Right now the setup is too plain, I hope Kubo can step it up a bit... ah, I was hoping for something better this week, with OP on break and all... oh well, next week.