Bleach Chapter 486 Discussion

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  • #66
Not much went on. But if anything then I think that this is the first Bleach chapter in a while that actually made me laugh.
 
  • #69
It's seems things are going really fast. suddenly i read, "5 days until the war break" on the very first page and thought, maybe i missed a chapter.



grandy_UiD said:
Also that's some really lame way to try and make a character seem important after killing him off.

It's like "so yeah, this guy was never of any importance but now he's dead. He was in fact totally awesome, even if we never saw it. But he was. Really. You all should be sad and moved. Especially you readers"



Yeah, well...it didn't work, I don't give a crap that he's dead.

This...
 
  • #70
I think it's time to lay this power level thing to rest. Yes, there are inconsistencies and yes if you try you can actually explain (some of) them. So Ichigo easily KO'd a guy who, 300 chapters later, turns out to have  been awesome. Big deal. Personally it doesn't bother me THAT much.





What makes this bad is not the weird power level. It's the fact that, the reader had no connection to this guy whatsoever. The in-universe characters might've known about his abilities and how important he was and are therefore shocked.



We readers, however, did not know about all this. Hence the comments on last weeks chapter ("who cares, if they guy we saw like two times in 480 chapters died"). So, to me, this chapter seems just like a really cheap attempt to make the guy look important and try to get some emotion out of the readers. But it just doesn't work that way. 90% of us STILL don't care about his death. Because giving us some infodump about how great he was really doesn't make up for him being barely in the manga and doing almost nothing for about a decade.





So, this whole thing went something like this:



Everyone: "Kubo, why do no important characters ever die in Bleach?"

Kubo: "Oh yeah? How about this: I kill Sasakibe off. That'll show 'em!"

Everyone: "um...we were talking about IMPORTANT characters that actually had some impact on the series so far"

Kubo: "You know nothing! This guy was uber important and you should be sad! Want some proof? Here, have some other characters narrate about his awesomeness. Ha!"

Everyone: /facepalm





It's just bad writing. "Show, don't tell". If we had seen him being important/awesome and/or doing SOMETHING except standing behind Yamamoto at all times, this would've been a different story and all of this would've gained some credibility. But Kubo simply telling us "he was awesome" just doesn't cut it. It just fails to make his death have any impact whatsoever on the reader.
 
  • #71
Urahara comes again, must be the starting point of a war.
 
  • #72
Fai said:
iWin101 said:
Preche oh how I've missed your antics

Sometimes it makes me wonder why was Sasakibe was owned by ichigo back in the soul society arc when Sasakibe can use bankai...

Because Ichigo has more than 2xcaptain reiatsu, remember?



Pre-jinzen if his reiatsu was not fluctuating, Ichigo only woul dhave problems wtih top four, unohana, ukitake, shunsui and yamamoto.

Oh come on.. he just hit him bare handed and knocked him out. You call it 2xCaptain power? He didn't even used his Shikai. Although He used his bankai and hollow powers against Byakuya but he was standing there after getting slashed up and  got away after his bankai sword disappeared. Does that mean Byakuya is on the captain commander level? nah.. that would make Ichigo 2xCommander level.



Fai said:
This is the guy who not even at full power trashed ulquiorra, who was close in  power to the other three(since the top four were VLs are quite close in terms of strength) and the likes of stark or halibel would play around with non-senior captains as if with toys, to the point that they had to be taken out through incredibly haxx abilities.



So no its not surprising that Ichigo at full resolve during surprise entrance, would knock out one of more stronger captain level shinigami.

You're saying Ichigo trashed Ulquiorra, not even at full power? O__o
 
  • #73
DoubtGin said:
So Sasakibe had Bankai before Ukitake and Kyoraku, yet he gets oneshotted by freshman Ichigo.



What part of "Ichigo has a beastly amount of reiatsu and if it was not fluctuating only the top four captains would be a threat to him" can't people get?...



This is the guy who not even at full power trashed ulquiorra, who was close in  power to the other three(since the top four were VLs are quite close in terms of strength) and the likes of stark or halibel would play around with non-senior captains as if with toys, to the point that they had to be taken out through incredibly haxx abilities.



So no its not surprising that Ichigo at full resolve during surprise entrance, would knock out one of more stronger captain level shinigami.
 
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