Arashi89 said:
wakka9ca said:
Bleach is what it is. Nothing more, nothing less. The reason people still reads it is because they want to find out what happens next. People can hate it as much as they can, but they will still read it for the sake of finding out what happens. The irony.
Wanna know what's the real irony in all of this? I read it for free. I'm never going to spend a cent on this failure.
Fai said:
Arashi89 said:
So it's okay to make really dumb decisions that could spell your defeat, because you are in a shonen manga?
Yes. Shonen manga Genre target audience is young Most of people reading(actually reading) Bleach haven't even read its predecessors.
There are certain tropes that exist in every damn shonen manga ever. In a sense its educational material.
Excepting something uber brilliant from shonen genre is like expecting plot from Haruhi or depth from Michael Bay. Its a genre where you sit back and look at cool explosions and character power ups. Noting occasional reference or two.
There are few shonen genre manga that are more than the genre itself, but most of cases are genre misplacement(Claymore), a very genius author(D.grayman, trc) or just plain quality presentation of same cliches in awesome ways(FMA)
You completely missed my point. Any kind of work, IMO, is fine even if it isn't a masterpiece. What I want is a decent plot, without incosistencies, plot holes, and easy resolutions through deus ex machinas, rounded characters and an art style that doesn't look horrible. And I expect all of this to be in a shonen manga, because that's how it should be, and there are a ton a works that fall under this description.
And you are over-generalizing a VERY wide market. What you are doing equals going to Britney Spears concert and complaining it did not have enough guitar solos :)
And wow, someone is proud of being a pirate, well, the world's culture is certainly going down fast then :)